Immigration.

[the other bob wilson]

Significant fall in 2025 - in reality, it’s returning to similars levels we had pre Covid. I can remember David Cameron setting a target about fifteen years ago of 100,000 a year which was never attained, but it’s getting pretty close to that figure now. These figures ask the question has there been an over reaction to the sharp rise seen since the start of this decade? Because immigration is further down my list of political priorities than it is with many others, I find myself wondering how the likes of Farage will react to these figures?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgzjpd1jjgt

[Feedback]

Re: Immigration.

I suspect they'll focus on the 813k or so arriving and not appreciate the 246k UK nationals going the other direction. If UK nationals can work in UAE, Saudi, Australia, for 5 years and then repatriate the funds, why can't Eastern Europeans come here and do the same?

My view, FWIW, is that we should make our borders a bit more open, and state to anyone that if they come to the UK, as long as they come to a legal port of entry, they will have the right to work here for 6 months, 12 months, whatever. They will be given a NIC number, which they can give to employers, they can be paid a fair wage and pay into the tax system...and then after six months / 12 months, if they have a good working record they can apply for the right to stay, which will usually be granted, assuming the record is positive.

There is little point wasting resources on stopping something that cannot be stopped, so lets look at what the Australians do and make sure that economic migrants are welcome and there is a mechanism whereby they can enter the country legally, knowing that they can go straight into the system and start contributing to society, rather than having to work in the black economy.

In Australia economic migrants typically works farms and so on, and we could do the same.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Immigration.

Significant fall in 2025 - in reality, it’s returning to similars levels we had pre Covid. I can remember David Cameron setting a target about fifteen years ago of 100,000 a year which was never attained, but it’s getting pretty close to that figure now. These figures ask the question has there been an over reaction to the sharp rise seen since the start of this decade? Because immigration is further down my list of political priorities than it is with many others, I find myself wondering how the likes of Farage will react to these figures?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgzjpd1jjgt

As far as your average reform voter is concerned they want zero immigration and the repatriation of as many immigrants as possible

The smokescreen of stop the boats .....we all want that for various reasons ....is a cover

[Alfresco]

Re: Immigration.

As far as your average reform voter is concerned they want zero immigration and the repatriation of as many immigrants as possible

The smokescreen of stop the boats .....we all want that for various reasons ....is a cover

I should imagine reform voter knows zero immigration is impossible.

[Dorcus]

Re: Immigration.

I should imagine reform voter knows zero immigration is impossible.

Yes but which Reform voter?

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Re: Immigration.

I should imagine reform voter knows zero immigration is impossible.

I think the reason they are getting such support with so many is because Reform are offering exactly that .....or they think Nigel will if he gets into office

[William Treseder]

Re: Immigration.

I think the reason they are getting such support with so many is because Reform are offering exactly that .....or they think Nigel will if he gets into office

In your political world sonny, now that your beloved Labour have imploded, you just seem to be aimlessly floating about in life's ocean, spouting the same old thing on here, day after day, week after week, month after month..
Try a new angle. Get a job, stop claiming benefits and get back out there before you end up pounding up and down Queen St inside a sandwich board.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Immigration.

In your political world sonny, now that your beloved Labour have imploded, you just seem to be aimlessly floating about in life's ocean, spouting the same old thing on here, day after day, week after week, month after month..
Try a new angle. Get a job, stop claiming benefits and get back out there before you end up pounding up and down Queen St inside a sandwich board.

I am not nor never have been welded to one particular party

My politics have always been against the right and far right

Basically I have always tried to vote to keep out the conservatives and now of course that bunch of tossers you vote for , reform

I dont know if you have managed to produce any grandchildren .....you probably shoot blanks ...but hopefully they wont be following you down that poson filled road of stench , decay and hatred

Good luck ( to the grandchildren )

[William Treseder]

Re: Immigration.

I am not nor never have been welded to one particular party

My politics have always been against the right and far right

Basically I have always tried to vote to keep out the conservatives and now of course that bunch of tossers you vote for , reform

I dont know if you have managed to produce any grandchildren .....you probably shoot blanks ...but hopefully they wont be following you down that poson filled road of stench , decay and hatred

Good luck ( to the grandchildren )

More chance of you having your hole than me voting reform. You don’t get it do you? You never have. You never will. You don’t want to. You are obsessed.
All that heavy metal over the yrs has frazzled your brain. You’ve gone from a poster with a bit of edge and humour, to a busted flush. It’s sad to witness.

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Re: Immigration.

More chance of you having your hole than me voting reform. You don’t get it do you? You never have. You never will. You don’t want to. You are obsessed.
All that heavy metal over the yrs has frazzled your brain. You’ve gone from a poster with a bit of edge and humour, to a busted flush. It’s sad to witness.

Feck off to the golf course you boring old ponce

[ninian opinian]

Re: Immigration.

Significant fall in 2025 - in reality, it’s returning to similars levels we had pre Covid. I can remember David Cameron setting a target about fifteen years ago of 100,000 a year which was never attained, but it’s getting pretty close to that figure now. These figures ask the question has there been an over reaction to the sharp rise seen since the start of this decade? Because immigration is further down my list of political priorities than it is with many others, I find myself wondering how the likes of Farage will react to these figures?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgzjpd1jjgt

37.5% of Reform MPs have had children with foreign born partners. How do they square that one?

[JamesWales]

Re: Immigration.

Wholly positive that net immigration is falling. The country simply has been unable to cope in recent years, with annual net immigration of close to a million in the period immediately after covid. The levels now are back to something closer to the post 2004 reforms that Blair brought in. Those figures are likely too high too and I think we are starting to see the long term impacts on if it in terms of it's unsustainability and sheer inability to provide services for people.

One way to look at it, crude perhaps, but is to consider the population rise and then work out the services needed. When it's around 300,000 (as has been for 20 years) you are talking about all the services in a city the size of Cardiff that are needed every year just to keep still. It's incredibly difficult to achieve, let alone whether it's desirable socially or economically.

I hope it comes down further.

A story here that for every young British person employed since 2020, 27 went to non EU migrants. No one can support such a scenario, surely?

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/27-young-non-eu-migrants-hired-for-every-young-brit-since-2020-analysis-reveals

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Re: Immigration.

Wholly positive that net immigration is falling. The country simply has been unable to cope in recent years, with annual net immigration of close to a million in the period immediately after covid. The levels now are back to something closer to the post 2004 reforms that Blair brought in. Those figures are likely too high too and I think we are starting to see the long term impacts on if it in terms of it's unsustainability and sheer inability to provide services for people.

One way to look at it, crude perhaps, but is to consider the population rise and then work out the services needed. When it's around 300,000 (as has been for 20 years) you are talking about all the services in a city the size of Cardiff that are needed every year just to keep still. It's incredibly difficult to achieve, let alone whether it's desirable socially or economically.

I hope it comes down further.

A story here that for every young British person employed since 2020, 27 went to non EU migrants. No one can support such a scenario, surely?

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.o...alysis-reveals

Centre For Social Justice 🤣 bunch of right wing freaks

No wonder you are voting reform

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Re: Immigration.

37.5% of Reform MPs have had children with foreign born partners. How do they square that one?

Massive hypocrites

[JamesWales]

Re: Immigration.

Centre For Social Justice 🤣 bunch of right wing freaks

No wonder you are voting reform

It says it all about you, that you seem to care more about who produced a report and some micro game about the left and right t than the fact our young people are being fcked over.

Ive got kids myself and your response helps no one.