Henry Nowak

[Dorcus]

Re: Henry Nowak

You can definitely add Katie, well done! 👍

However, bear in mind sadly there always has and probably will for ever be murders. They are a horrible part of the human experience. The Prime Minister has no direct political control over their individual occurrence. That is left, quite properly, to Law Enforcement and Justice agencies.

However, the Prime Minister does have plenary political control over dangerous demigogues and rabble rousers whose sole purpose is to create civil violence and societal rupture. That's a different order of both magnitude and seriousness altogether.

By the way, just to add....I'm probably as much of a Starmer fan as you are

[Dorcus]

Re: Henry Nowak

And in solitary or a segregation wing. He will be Prized meat to plenty of people in prison. Don't be surprised if he ends up getting killed while doing his time.

He will be shitting himself for the rest of his life and he deserves everything he gets. A total scumbag!

[Tuerto]

Re: Henry Nowak

He will be shitting himself for the rest of his life and he deserves everything he gets. A total scumbag!

Completely.

[Tuerto]

Re: Henry Nowak

Rebel rousers like Nige, Rupert, Kemi and Tommy, can i add Katie? are pretty odious characters (if we are just keeping it to the UK), but as far as I'm aware, none of them has gone out and stabbed somebody to death, then accusing the victim of racism whilst the victim is bleeding to death on the floor, and which looking over this thread has seemed to be forgotten or ignored in favour of your side is worse than mine type of argument, thankfully the perpetrator of this awful crime is in gaol.

The people you have mentioned use rhetoric which stokes people up. I would certainly attribute members of the public and the police, sustaining injuries due to the reactions of cretins who believe the vile muck that comes out of the mouths of the people you have referenced.

[Dorcus]

Re: Henry Nowak

The people you have mentioned use rhetoric which stokes people up. I would certainly attribute members of the public and the police, sustaining injuries due to the reactions of cretins who believe the vile muck that comes out of the mouths of the people you have referenced.

And that poor police dog! Nige you absolute c***

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Henry Nowak

Rebel rousers like Nige, Rupert, Kemi and Tommy, can i add Katie? are pretty odious characters (if we are just keeping it to the UK), but as far as I'm aware, none of them has gone out and stabbed somebody to death, then accusing the victim of racism whilst the victim is bleeding to death on the floor, and which looking over this thread has seemed to be forgotten or ignored in favour of your side is worse than mine type of argument, thankfully the perpetrator of this awful crime is in gaol.

Whats the murder of this young lad got to do with Starmer or the police or political correctness ?

Hes a crap PM but hes been in two years , what are you expecting

The bloke who killed this young man was vermin and hes in jail for at least 21 years

Are you expecting the PM , Police etc to be able to prevent every low life of whatever background , race or belief from killing ?

How has Starmer as useless as he is , the law , home office directives and everything else responsible for this murderer ?

The tossers like Nigel Farage , Katie Pie Face , Rupert The Bear etc are far more of a threat to society than anything else

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Henry Nowak

You can definitely add Katie, well done! 👍

However, bear in mind sadly there always has and probably will for ever be murders. They are a horrible part of the human experience. The Prime Minister has no direct political control over their individual occurrence. That is left, quite properly, to Law Enforcement and Justice agencies.

However, the Prime Minister does have plenary political control over dangerous demigogues and rabble rousers whose sole purpose is to create civil violence and societal rupture. That's a different order of both magnitude and seriousness altogether.

Starmer is crap

But how can he be blamed for this " breakdown in society " , its his fault they say that the uk will go up in smoke this summer ......we always hear that .....its his fault immigration is such a problem .......it was the conservatives who presided for 14 years of mass immigration ......

These people are idiots

[ninian opinian]

Re: Henry Nowak

you've not made a point, you've attempted to obfuscate and make this party poiltical.

the events are not similar in the slightest. If the police turned up and arrested the rape victim, then we could compare, but they did not. you want them to be similar as it suits your narrative, which as per usual is a little wide of the mark


there is nothing consistent in the point you are trying to make. On one hand we have the police attend a murder and arrest the victim, whereas on the other hand...well I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

nice try, whether you deny it or not you're still a tax dodger.

Right on ignore, again!

But before I go, where the feck you’ve got I’m a tax dodger from is absolutely bonkers. If only you knew

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Henry Nowak

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/05/nigel-farage-speak-for-the-nation-jo-cox-sarah-everard-henry-nowak

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlplwn1jkro

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Re: Henry Nowak

Right on ignore, again!

But before I go, where the feck you’ve got I’m a tax dodger from is absolutely bonkers. If only you knew

You are DTM and a tax dodger. Avoiding paying your fair share. Like a few on the left, you dont necessarily practice what you preach.

Oh I forgot, I'm on ignore.

[Feedback]

Re: Henry Nowak

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rd-henry-nowak

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlplwn1jkro

Is anyone surprised that this odious man would use such an event to promote his xenophobic chauvinistic politics? Granted the Novak case is a new low even for Farage, but hardly surprising.

What does concern me is that maybe even ten years ago we'd never have politicians from either side of the pond making such comments and yet today they are becoming the norm. Perhaps this is a backlash to unfettered liberalism (which in itself is no bad thing), as not everyone wishes to see a society that the UK has become. There were signs this was the direction of travel but few were paying attention.

[Heathblue]

Re: Henry Nowak

Is anyone surprised that this odious man would use such an event to promote his xenophobic chauvinistic politics? Granted the Novak case is a new low even for Farage, but hardly surprising.

What does concern me is that maybe even ten years ago we'd never have politicians from either side of the pond making such comments and yet today they are becoming the norm. Perhaps this is a backlash to unfettered liberalism (which in itself is no bad thing), as not everyone wishes to see a society that the UK has become. There were signs this was the direction of travel but few were paying attention.

I had a thread on here a few months ago about society in general and how unsafe it is becoming only to get knocked with, its no different to back in the day, the statistics back it up blah blah blah, however odious Farage and the rest of them are, it's rhetoric to quote Tuerto, but the overwhelming majority of people will see it for what it is and either just ignore it, or read it and just say what a load of shit, evil people do evil things, if you put a knife on yourself to go out with, the intent is in play and I'm not buying into any custom religious shit, if TOBW wants to start a Whataboutism thread he should do so, and then everyone can have a rant about the Farage, Hopkins, Robinson the Tate brothers, Lozza Fox and the rest of them, decent people don't murder people in cold blood on the street because some idiot said something in the media, if you do this you are not a decent person at the get go, and if people want to absolve the murderer for his action, I believe that they are free to do so under current legislation in this country. You like me probably stood on the bob bank or Grange end years ago singing you're gonnna get your fkcing heads kicked in but on walking out of the ground the majority just carried on with life and walked back to the station or wherever your transport happened to be.

[jon1959]

Re: Henry Nowak

Is anyone surprised that this odious man would use such an event to promote his xenophobic chauvinistic politics? Granted the Novak case is a new low even for Farage, but hardly surprising.

What does concern me is that maybe even ten years ago we'd never have politicians from either side of the pond making such comments and yet today they are becoming the norm. Perhaps this is a backlash to unfettered liberalism (which in itself is no bad thing), as not everyone wishes to see a society that the UK has become. There were signs this was the direction of travel but few were paying attention.

It is easy to point to Trump when he is not the only reason for previous norms of behaviour and language being trashed - but he is the prime reason.

We now have populist mini Trumps moving the dial massively and more traditional politicians and broadcasters following in their wake.

The post war norms we used to know were certainly not all good. Civility and the posture of responsibility hid a bucket load of hypocrisy. But I preferred that to what we have now.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Henry Nowak

I had a thread on here a few months ago about society in general and how unsafe it is becoming only to get knocked with, its no different to back in the day, the statistics back it up blah blah blah, however odious Farage and the rest of them are, it's rhetoric to quote Tuerto, but the overwhelming majority of people will see it for what it is and either just ignore it, or read it and just say what a load of shit, evil people do evil things, if you put a knife on yourself to go out with, the intent is in play and I'm not buying into any custom religious shit, if TOBW wants to start a Whataboutism thread he should do so, and then everyone can have a rant about the Farage, Hopkins, Robinson the Tate brothers, Lozza Fox and the rest of them, decent people don't murder people in cold blood on the street because some idiot said something in the media, if you do this you are not a decent person at the get go, and if people want to absolve the murderer for his action, I believe that they are free to do so under current legislation in this country. You like me probably stood on the bob bank or Grange end years ago singing you're gonnna get your fkcing heads kicked in but on walking out of the ground the majority just carried on with life and walked back to the station or wherever your transport happened to be.

I’m baffled by this message. I’ve consistently said through the thread that this is a case where the perpetrator has been caught, convicted and has been told he is going to get a life sentence. It appears certain that members of his family who lied about what had happened are going to face charges about that. Furthermore, the victim’s father, speaking shortly after the guilty verdict, told the media that he wanted to see a debate about knife crime, not politicians looking to cash in on a tragic and unfortunate situation. If anyone was entitled to feel “pure cold rage”, it was surely Mr Nowak, yet you got dignity and an understanding of the potential for mayhem from him while Farage fanned the flames.

IÂ’m not sure how that qualifies as whataboutery. Who am I trying to excuse? Who am I trying to divert attention towards?

The policing was inept, not corrupt, for me and it is being investigated - that seems open and shut to me, you make allowances it being dark and them being under pressure, but how can someone put a pair of handcuffs on someone who has stab wounds that will cause their death and not notice them?

Forget about all of the gaslighting about two tier policing, this is yet another case of cock up over conspiracy, but to recognised that would be to deny Farage his persecuted English white man narrative.

As of March last year 91.5 per cent of the policemen and women in England and Wales identified as white. Are we seriously to believe that they would willingly go along with a two tier policing system in favour of ethnic minorities over the majority white population? This makes no sense when you consider that black individuals are four to five times more likely to be stopped by the police than white ones and Asians are between 1.4 and 1.7 times more likely to be stopped than whites.

[Dorcus]

Re: Henry Nowak

I’m baffled by this message. I’ve consistently said through the thread that this is a case where the perpetrator has been caught, convicted and has been told he is going to get a life sentence. It appears certain that members of his family who lied about what had happened are going to face charges about that. Furthermore, the victim’s father, speaking shortly after the guilty verdict, told the media that he wanted to see a debate about knife crime, not politicians looking to cash in on a tragic and unfortunate situation. If anyone was entitled to feel “pure cold rage”, it was surely Mr Nowak, yet you got dignity and an understanding of the potential for mayhem from him while Farage fanned the flames.

IÂ’m not sure how that qualifies as whataboutery. Who am I trying to excuse? Who am I trying to divert attention towards?

The policing was inept, not corrupt, for me and it is being investigated - that seems open and shut to me, you make allowances it being dark and them being under pressure, but how can someone put a pair of handcuffs on someone who has stab wounds that will cause their death and not notice them?

Forget about all of the gaslighting about two tier policing, this is yet another case of cock up over conspiracy, but to recognised that would be to deny Farage his persecuted English white man narrative.

As of March last year 91.5 per cent of the policemen and women in England and Wales identified as white. Are we seriously to believe that they would willingly go along with a two tier policing system in favour of ethnic minorities over the majority white population? This makes no sense when you consider that black individuals are four to five times more likely to be stopped by the police than white ones and Asians are between 1.4 and 1.7 times more likely to be stopped than whites.

Bob you're talking far too much sense for some people. Come on let yourself go and join in the "pure cold rage"