Henry Nowak

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Re: Henry Nowak

The concept of national identity wherever you live in the world is a moving feast. It is largely subjective and often based partly on myth, selective historical indoctrination and stereotypes.
Nations are simply defined by red lines on maps and individual human attributes are far more complex and less homogenous once they are freed from state and religious yokes.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Henry Nowak

I miss the traditional British values where you could express yourself freely without fear of causing offence.

I miss calling my local Chinese take away "the chinkies", the Indian shop owner "the pakis" and referring to any woman to as "luv" "sweetheart" or "daft slag".

In fairness since the late 70s British values have turned to shiit.

I'd bring back tv programmes like Mind Our Language to demonstrate how open and tolerant we were to "darkies" and "wogs" coming over here.

I blame Starmer.

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Re: Henry Nowak

Over the years young women have occasionally been subject to terrible things in Cardiff

Murder in the Carpet , Riverside

Poor young girl killed in Cath Cobb woods

Murder of Lynette White

Geraldine Palk

None of these women were killed by muslim immigrants

And how many rapes, rape gangs, murders, stabbings etc by immigrants in the last few years in the uk?

I don't get your argument. We all know we have plenty of British nonces, murderers, criminals and scum. We have absolutely no need to bring in any more. Anyone here illegally should go, anyone that has come here legally and committed a crime, should go. Doesn't seem even unreasonable yet that sort of thinking will be called racist.

If we could get rid of the British wrongun too then i'd be all for it.

Cardiff isn't anywhere near as diverse as other parts of the country. Just because things might not seem so bad here doesn't mean in other parts of the country people don't experience immigration, particularly of the illegal sort completely differently.

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Re: Henry Nowak

How do the different customs etc enrich our society? It's minimal, if anything.

People will say stuff like this then order a curry or a kebab without the slightest hint of self awareness

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Re: Henry Nowak

People will say stuff like this then order a curry or a kebab without the slightest hint of self awareness

Bet you order a Masala and think you're being cultural.

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Re: Henry Nowak

And how many rapes, rape gangs, murders, stabbings etc by immigrants in the last few years in the uk?

I don't get your argument. We all know we have plenty of British nonces, murderers, criminals and scum. We have absolutely no need to bring in any more. Anyone here illegally should go, anyone that has come here legally and committed a crime, should go. Doesn't seem even unreasonable yet that sort of thinking will be called racist.

If we could get rid of the British wrongun too then i'd be all for it.

Cardiff isn't anywhere near as diverse as other parts of the country. Just because things might not seem so bad here doesn't mean in other parts of the country people don't experience immigration, particularly of the illegal sort completely differently.

It depends where you are comparing Cardiff to ..


Its not as diverse as London , Birmingham or Manchester but its percentage of non white residents is higher than Bristol , Leeds , Newcastle , Glasgow

How much immigrant crime compared to crime by non immigrants has happened over last 30 years ? I would imagine you could find out

I think its completely unreasonable and certainly illegal to " deport " someone who has come to the uk legally and lives here because they have broken the law ?

Someone comes here from Iraq , fleeing Saddam Hussain .......is legally resident in the uk and for 15 years hes worked in the NHS as a nurse or physio

He stupidly has a few beers at a staff drinks evening , drives home and hes over the limit

You want this person sent back to Iraq ? Hes living and working here

Thats clearly plain silly

I would agree that if someone arrives here illegally we should try and deport them

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Re: Henry Nowak

And how many rapes, rape gangs, murders, stabbings etc by immigrants in the last few years in the uk?

Is this question rhetorical or can you provide us with some cold hard facts to digest over?

Do we assume all Welshmen, including you, are into young women's football teams etc etc because of David Sullivan, or is that just lazy profiling with no basis in fact? Are you freely admitting you're into young women, some underage? Where do we start and stop with stereotypes and guilt by association?

[Dorcus]

Re: Henry Nowak

And how many rapes, rape gangs, murders, stabbings etc by immigrants in the last few years in the uk?

I don't get your argument. We all know we have plenty of British nonces, murderers, criminals and scum. We have absolutely no need to bring in any more. Anyone here illegally should go, anyone that has come here legally and committed a crime, should go. Doesn't seem even unreasonable yet that sort of thinking will be called racist.

If we could get rid of the British wrongun too then i'd be all for it.

Cardiff isn't anywhere near as diverse as other parts of the country. Just because things might not seem so bad here doesn't mean in other parts of the country people don't experience immigration, particularly of the illegal sort completely differently.

Some fair points but people shouldn't be tarred by the same brush

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Henry Nowak

People will say stuff like this then order a curry or a kebab without the slightest hint of self awareness

Haven't had a curry in ages. The last kebab I had (many years ago) ran straight through me. What an enriching night that was.

Technically, and not that I'm advocating this, but you don't need immigration for kebabs and curries; you just need to go and learn their techniques and bring them back.

[caerkid]

Re: Henry Nowak

Some fair points but people shouldn't be tarred by the same brush

They are only fair points though as they match the current laws and processes in UK immigration. If you enter illegally and cannot prove a legal reason to stay, you will be deported, if you legally settle but commit a crime which has more than 12months imprisonment you will also be deported. That sort of thinking will get you a job at the Home Office, rather than being called racist. Perhaps this is one of the reasons migration levels are at their lowest since 2012 ,although a decade of poor economic performance has done great work there too.

The killer of Henry Nowak was British born, and the Northern Ireland attacker was apparently a legally settled refugee, so illegal migration has nothing to do with either case ,but let's be honest, it's not even worth pretending it ever did at this point.

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Re: Henry Nowak

Haven't had a curry in ages. The last kebab I had (many years ago) ran straight through me. What an enriching night that was.

Technically, and not that I'm advocating this, but you don't need immigration for kebabs and curries; you just need to go and learn their techniques and bring them back.

Eating a Kebab after several beers (does anyone eat them sober) is one of the most Culturally British things a man can do. I'd stick with a roast iif i was you

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Henry Nowak

The concept of national identity wherever you live in the world is a moving feast. It is largely subjective and often based partly on myth, selective historical indoctrination and stereotypes.
Nations are simply defined by red lines on maps and individual human attributes are far more complex and less homogenous once they are freed from state and religious yokes.

I'd like to nominate this response for the word salad post of the day award

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Re: Henry Nowak

I miss the traditional British values where you could express yourself freely without fear of causing offence.

I miss calling my local Chinese take away "the chinkies", the Indian shop owner "the pakis" and referring to any woman to as "luv" "sweetheart" or "daft slag".

In fairness since the late 70s British values have turned to shiit.

I'd bring back tv programmes like Mind Our Language to demonstrate how open and tolerant we were to "darkies" and "wogs" coming over here.

I blame Starmer.

If you ever feel the need to visit a trip down memory lane, a sense of nostalgia, a feeling for days gone by, and the chance to see, gear and listen to most of what you've posted above, Then there's always an open invite for you Jordi to have Christmas dinner at my in laws. Even the door bell chime is ****ing racist.

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Re: Henry Nowak

Bet you order a Masala and think you're being cultural.

found one

[Coyote]

Re: Henry Nowak

I'd like to nominate this response for the word salad post of the day award

Is he wrong though?