Henry Nowak

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Henry Nowak

Is he wrong though?

I'll get back to you after I run it though my word salad translator

[Coyote]

Re: Henry Nowak

I'll get back to you after I run it though my word salad translator

You mean AI?

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Henry Nowak

You mean AI?

No, a professor of anthropology at Oxford University.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Henry Nowak

How do the different customs etc enrich our society?

I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.

[Coyote]

Re: Henry Nowak

I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.

I'd also flip the question: What have the people getting mad at the different custom contributed positively to society? All they've managed is rage and riding on the backs of other people actually responsible for positive contributions to society. They've done more to hurt society than not only immigrants as a whole, but I'd even argue the criminal immigrants they crow on about, because they've allowed a rot to fester that's much harder to deal with than individual criminals.

They should be grateful the question and narrative has not shifted to whether or not they should be allowed to participate in civil society, because the narrative they're concocting is a Frankenstein monster that will turn in on itself.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Henry Nowak

I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.

I've tried to emigrate to many fantastic countries outside of the west and they all said they don't do immigration. Pity really as they all looked like nice places to live.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Henry Nowak

I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.

The things you list are subjective and consumer choices. They may or may not affect any given individual, based on personal taste. It doesn't make anyone better or worse for what they choose. My question was to Tuerto who suggested he could walk down City Road and get a "true education" and it enriched us as a society and I asked how. Whenever there's a debate on immigration, diversity is suggested as a positive thing but it's a digression at best.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Henry Nowak

The things you list are subjective and consumer choices. They may or may not affect any given individual, based on personal taste.

I think they affect each and every one of us on a daily basis. Of course, those opposed to immigration will pretend they don't, but we all know that's nonsense in reality.

UK 'culture' (if there actually is such a thing in this day and age) includes countless elements either taken directly from or strongly influenced by other cultures from all over the globe, and that's been the case all of my life.

I often wonder how people who maintain a firm anti-immigration stance reconcile their support for professional football in general and Cardiff City in particular? If their 'consumer choices' include supporting a club like ours, do they feel at all hypocritical?

[Tuerto]

Re: Henry Nowak

I've tried to emigrate to many fantastic countries outside of the west and they all said they don't do immigration. Pity really as they all looked like nice places to live.

You know that you're f ucked when Moldova don't even want you.

[Tuerto]

Re: Henry Nowak

The things you list are subjective and consumer choices. They may or may not affect any given individual, based on personal taste. It doesn't make anyone better or worse for what they choose. My question was to Tuerto who suggested he could walk down City Road and get a "true education" and it enriched us as a society and I asked how. Whenever there's a debate on immigration, diversity is suggested as a positive thing but it's a digression at best.

It's pretty simple. City rd is unique, as most of us are aware. The majority of business owners originate from different countries and different cultures. So i eat, talk to people, find stuff out that i didn't know before, and i have made sone friends along the way. I'm completely aware of the fact that their main objective is to make money for them and their families, and once i have left, they move onto the next punter. That's fine with me, but if me and others feeling like we have learnt something, eaten something that i wouldn't ordinarily eat, sit amongst people from a background that i would rarely do, and noticed stuff that i wouldn't in most other parts of the city, then i'm more than happy to be a 'By Product' of all of that.

[William Treseder]

Re: Henry Nowak

I’ve lived in Cardiff all my life. All 60 yrs.
I wouldn’t say my life has been enriched at all by living side by side with different nationalities, customs and cultures.
The only times i’ve felt enriched and excited by other customs and cultures, is when i’ve decided to travel myself to far off shores and destinations.
I’ve visited many places in Europe and the far east. I’ve made many good memories, mets lots of interesting folk, and learnt a lot about different cultures , currencies, customs, music etc.
Day to day life in Cardiff has been quite monotonous. You aren’t going to learn much from visiting your local Italian or Indian restaurant, or driving a German or Malaysian car. You aren’t gonna walk into a pub in Cardiff and have good chin wag with a Chinese,, Somali, Thai or Japanese punter are you ?

[Tuerto]

Re: Henry Nowak

IÂ’ve lived in Cardiff all my life. All 60 yrs.
I wouldnÂ’t say my life has been enriched at all by living side by side with different nationalities, customs and cultures.
The only times iÂ’ve felt enriched and excited by other customs and cultures, is when iÂ’ve decided to travel myself to far off shores and destinations.
IÂ’ve visited many places in Europe and the far east. IÂ’ve made many good memories, mets lots of interesting folk, and learnt a lot about different cultures , currencies, customs, music etc.
Day to day life in Cardiff has been quite monotonous. You arenÂ’t going to learn much from visiting your local Italian or Indian restaurant, or driving a German or Malaysian car. You arenÂ’t gonna walk into a pub in Cardiff and have good chin wag with a Chinese,, Somali, Thai or Japanese punter are you ?

Fair enough Bill, we're all different, and we experience things in different ways, Although i was waiting for the punchline from a joke with your last sentence

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Henry Nowak

I think they affect each and every one of us on a daily basis. Of course, those opposed to immigration will pretend they don't, but we all know that's nonsense in reality.

UK 'culture' (if there actually is such a thing in this day and age) includes countless elements either taken directly from or strongly influenced by other cultures from all over the globe, and that's been the case all of my life.

I often wonder how people who maintain a firm anti-immigration stance reconcile their support for professional football in general and Cardiff City in particular? If their 'consumer choices' include supporting a club like ours, do they feel at all hypocritical?

Food and drink perhaps, depending on what you choose. The other things might not have any bearing. If "food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that" were a requirement for permanent residence, there'd be a fraction of the immigration we have.

But, again, that's not the point. All most people are saying is that immigration should be better managed which is met with cries of racism and selective examples of why everything's dandy.

Can't really help with the last paragraph; maybe you should ask them.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Henry Nowak

I’ve lived in Cardiff all my life. All 60 yrs.
I wouldn’t say my life has been enriched at all by living side by side with different nationalities, customs and cultures.
The only times i’ve felt enriched and excited by other customs and cultures, is when i’ve decided to travel myself to far off shores and destinations.
I’ve visited many places in Europe and the far east. I’ve made many good memories, mets lots of interesting folk, and learnt a lot about different cultures , currencies, customs, music etc.
Day to day life in Cardiff has been quite monotonous. You aren’t going to learn much from visiting your local Italian or Indian restaurant, or driving a German or Malaysian car. You aren’t gonna walk into a pub in Cardiff and have good chin wag with a Chinese,, Somali, Thai or Japanese punter are you ?

You can't beat total emersion when it comes to experiencing a culture.