John Healey resigns as Defence Secretary Plan

[Elwood Blues]

Says that Governments Defence Investment Plan is well short of the investment needed

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Says that Governments Defence Investment Plan is well short of the investment needed

The military and defence lobby also have to accept that times are tough

How far does this fear mongering have to stretch ?

Are we going to close hospitals and throw kids in care onto the streets to fund new rockets that are never going to be used ?

Surely if we have nuclear weapons pointed at Putin thats enough ?

[Dorcus]

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The military and defence lobby also have to accept that times are tough

How far does this fear mongering have to stretch ?

Are we going to close hospitals and throw kids in care onto the streets to fund new rockets that are never going to be used ?

Surely if we have nuclear weapons pointed at Putin thats enough ?

Agree but we also need a few pointed at Trump

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Agree but we also need a few pointed at Trump

That would be one of several options

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The military and defence lobby also have to accept that times are tough

How far does this fear mongering have to stretch ?

Are we going to close hospitals and throw kids in care onto the streets to fund new rockets that are never going to be used ?

Surely if we have nuclear weapons pointed at Putin thats enough ?

the first priority of any government is the protection of its citizens. This is a clear failure on the part of the incumbent government.

however, Ukraine and Iran have shown that asymmetrical warfare is a very real thing, and that new forms of defence will need to be considered.

[Wales-Bales]

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The military and defence lobby also have to accept that times are tough

How far does this fear mongering have to stretch ?

Are we going to close hospitals and throw kids in care onto the streets to fund new rockets that are never going to be used ?

Surely if we have nuclear weapons pointed at Putin thats enough ?

Times are tough because of the people you and Rjk tactically voted into power!

[Wales-Bales]

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Agree but we also need a few pointed at Trump

What's the first thing you think about when you wake up in the morning, does it begin with a T?

[Dorcus]

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What's the first thing you think about when you wake up in the morning, does it begin with a T?

Yes Tea!

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the first priority of any government is the protection of its citizens. This is a clear failure on the part of the incumbent government.

however, Ukraine and Iran have shown that asymmetrical warfare is a very real thing, and that new forms of defence will need to be considered.

And the care of the elderly , vulnerable

Its no good protecting the country from putin if millions of citizens starve to death

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Times are tough because of the people you and Rjk tactically voted into power!

What within 2 years ?

You silly cnnt

[Elwood Blues]

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And the care of the elderly , vulnerable

Its no good protecting the country from putin if millions of citizens starve to death

.

I don't think John Healey was recommending that!!

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I don't think John Healey was recommending that!!

Its clear that there is running commentary to drastically cut welfare spending to fund defence

And when its suggested that if that occurs then surely it should be the biggest cost within the welfare budget ....pensions and the triple lock .....that should be slashed ..........the usual excuses come out

So there are two issues .......do we really need to spend all this money on defence ? Some big doubts about that

Can we fund the cost of defence through other means than the usual take it off those on universal credit etc etc

[Wales-Bales]

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Its clear that there is running commentary to drastically cut welfare spending to fund defence

And when its suggested that if that occurs then surely it should be the biggest cost within the welfare budget ....pensions and the triple lock .....that should be slashed ..........the usual excuses come out

So there are two issues .......do we really need to spend all this money on defence ? Some big doubts about that

Can we fund the cost of defence through other means than the usual take it off those on universal credit etc etc

Why are you ignoring Red Ed's massive climate expenditure and the rush towards giant data centres that will consume huge amounts of energy.

[Elwood Blues]

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Its clear that there is running commentary to drastically cut welfare spending to fund defence

And when its suggested that if that occurs then surely it should be the biggest cost within the welfare budget ....pensions and the triple lock .....that should be slashed ..........the usual excuses come out

So there are two issues .......do we really need to spend all this money on defence ? Some big doubts about that

Can we fund the cost of defence through other means than the usual take it off those on universal credit etc etc

It's the old adage

Guns or Butter

The ideal of course is guns and butter....but that is very difficult to achieve sadly.

[Heathblue]

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All perfectly normal.