Tories get a leathering

[Rjk]

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I think Batley and Spen is likely to go to the conservatives

[xsnaggle]

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I understand that Labour effecively stood aside to let the Libs have a cl may be the only way to unseat this awful Tory Government.

Do you have anything that leads you to believe they did a deal? If you do I'm sure sludge and others would love your insight. After the result the silence from the Labour party was deafening. If they had done a deal shirley they'd have been telling us.

Either way it's not good. Government, specially one with a big majority, needs a strong focused opposition and at the moment that is non-existent.

[xsnaggle]

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[QUOTE=life on mars;5199064]If they join forces with SNP / Sien Fein and give them them independence vote plus cancel HS2 all done up like a kipper .

Still think Labour and Tory support of HR2 was a huge factor , lets wait for the next one to be sure of the trend as it was a Labour seat in Batley and Spen .

You just feel a lot of elections are now fought on significant local issues ?

Bi-elections are almost always fought on local issues, that's why they tend to throw up odd results. And the Liberals have always been very good at mustering their abilities to fight bi-elections, as far back as Orpington.
But I doubt that will be much comfort to the Conservatives.

[The Bloop]

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Ed Davey's reaction to the victory reminded me of David Steel's 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare for Government' speech years ago.

We're still waiting.

[AfricanBluebird]

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I keep waiting for the backlash against the Tories, who are in my opinion, the most corrupt, inadequate and useless bunch of grifters ever to govern.

And yes we keep waiting, and waiting.

Maybe this is a slight blip or the start of the english middle classes finally having enough of tory lies and uselessness.

[Gofer Blue]

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This has to be a freak result based on local issues. No way is this a Liberal Democrat "revival". As for "Labour standing aside" that is a complete joke invented by one of their spin doctors I suspect. Only 622 votes - come on, pull the other one!! Tories can claim the usual "it's a by-election and the party in power always gets a bloody nose" mantra.

[Hilts]

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I keep waiting for the backlash against the Tories, who are in my opinion, the most corrupt, inadequate and useless bunch of grifters ever to govern.

And yes we keep waiting, and waiting.

Maybe this is a slight blip or the start of the english middle classes finally having enough of tory lies and uselessness.

Agree.

Easily the most useless Prime Minister and front bench in memory. Even on this board criticise and theres a significant minority upset and into defence mode.

[Tuerto]

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BBC News - Chesham and Amersham: Lib Dems overturn big Tory majority in by-election upset

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-57472032

Labour did well

The Lib Dem winner looks a classy lady , I am going to e mail her

Does make me laugh to see the liberals rejoicing in victory as though its a tidal wave , they will get a kicking at the next election

In 2017, Corbyn received 20.6% of the vote in this constituency, under starmer, 1.6%.

[Rjk]

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In 2017, Corbyn received 20.6% of the vote in this constituency, under starmer, 1.6%.

If you look back through the previous elections though 2017 is very much an anomaly. I would have thought that was likely to have been far more about Brexit than an endorsement of Corbyn's labour.

In every other election there Labour haven't finished higher than third.

[Rjk]

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In 2017, Corbyn received 20.6% of the vote in this constituency, under starmer, 1.6%.

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1405699154882580482?s=20

[Tuerto]

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https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/s...882580482?s=20

I make it Wilson in the lead by a nose, cheers for that.

[Tuerto]

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If you look back through the previous elections though 2017 is very much an anomaly. I would have thought that was likely to have been far more about Brexit than an endorsement of Corbyn's labour.

In every other election there Labour haven't finished higher than third.

Probably, although Corbyn wasn't exactly pro Brexit. The reality is that he hates the EU (as i do) Because of EU Austerity, the rise in unemployment and the formation of far right groups has boomed, although i think that we've had that conversation.

[Rjk]

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I make it Wilson in the lead by a nose, cheers for that.

The Tories had never got less than 50% of the vote previously. Suddenly it's in the mid 30s. If the Tory vote holds then it doesn't matter what labour or the lib dems do

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I keep waiting for the backlash against the Tories, who are in my opinion, the most corrupt, inadequate and useless bunch of grifters ever to govern.

And yes we keep waiting, and waiting.

Maybe this is a slight blip or the start of the english middle classes finally having enough of tory lies and uselessness.

Could well be. Then they'll ditch the conservatives and go and vote for ... oh, hang on.

[life on mars]

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In 2017, Corbyn received 20.6% of the vote in this constituency, under starmer, 1.6%.

Wow left leaning Chesham and Amersham , who would have thought that ,does this confirm Starmer is a Tory ?

Still doesn't totally explain the big swing to Liberals though ?