Tories get a leathering

[the other bob wilson]

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It’s funny, all of the news outlets that I’ve heard, seen or read think the main story from this by election is that the Conservatives lost a seat that has always been theirs, but on a Cardiff City messageboard they’ve decided the issue worth talking about is what happened to the Labour Party

[Rjk]

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It’s funny, all of the news outlets that I’ve heard, seen or read think the main story from this by election is that the Conservatives lost a seat that has always been theirs, but on a Cardiff City messageboard they’ve decided the issue worth talking about is what happened to the Labour Party

some of the Tory press have predictably tried to frame this story as a labour one

[Tuerto]

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It’s funny, all of the news outlets that I’ve heard, seen or read think the main story from this by election is that the Conservatives lost a seat that has always been theirs, but on a Cardiff City messageboard they’ve decided the issue worth talking about is what happened to the Labour Party

Fair point, although i only added to it!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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No credible alternative to the Conservatives

This was a one off , whatever the liberals think

Unless a I don't vote tory alliance is formed sharpish then that's it , curtains

[surge]

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Regarding this latest MP, has anyone mentioned she's from Harry Wilson's Corwen?

[AfricanBluebird]

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No credible alternative to the Conservatives

This was a one off , whatever the liberals think

Unless a I don't vote tory alliance is formed sharpish then that's it , curtains

We are at the point where, to get rid of the Tories, we need an alliance of Plaid, Greens, SNP, Labour and the LibDems

Plaid and SNP would want a committment to a referendum on independence. Labour and the LibDems would never agree.

However surely even independence can be parked for a few years just to get rid of the Tories.

[dml1954]

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We are at the point where, to get rid of the Tories, we need an alliance of Plaid, Greens, SNP, Labour and the LibDems

Plaid and SNP would want a committment to a referendum on independence. Labour and the LibDems would never agree.

However surely even independence can be parked for a few years just to get rid of the Tories.

Why would Plaid, Lib Dems, Greens and SNP want to form an alliance with the bunch of has beens called Labour. Not everyone wants to get rid of the Tories anyway - including the nearly 14 million people who voted for them in the election just 18 months ago.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Why would Plaid, Lib Dems, Greens and SNP want to form an alliance with the bunch of has beens called Labour. Not everyone wants to get rid of the Tories anyway - including the nearly 14 million people who voted for them in the election just 18 months ago.

The majority of those who voted , by a large margin , want to get rid of the tories

They are too stubborn to realise though that in order to do so they need to merge

The UK has been a two party state for many many years

The sensible approach for those who don't vote tory and thats most of the country would be to form a anti tory alliance

Its the only way forward now the Scots have turned their back on Labour and its going the same way in England

Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a cloud of mushrooms

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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We are at the point where, to get rid of the Tories, we need an alliance of Plaid, Greens, SNP, Labour and the LibDems

Plaid and SNP would want a committment to a referendum on independence. Labour and the LibDems would never agree.

However surely even independence can be parked for a few years just to get rid of the Tories.

The Labour Party and Liberals need to fold and form a third way and mop up other parties , plaid are a waste of time , SNP have killed off Labour in Scotland

[Eric Cartman]

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Vote Third Way

[life on mars]

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The Labour Party and Liberals need to fold and form a third way and mop up other parties , plaid are a waste of time , SNP have killed off Labour in Scotland

Don't you mean killed ?

[AfricanBluebird]

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The Labour Party and Liberals need to fold and form a third way and mop up other parties , plaid are a waste of time , SNP have killed off Labour in Scotland

Agreed.

I'm pro-independence, but first and foremost, we have to get rid of the Tories.

[life on mars]

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Ed Davey's reaction to the victory reminded me of David Steel's 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare for Government' speech years ago.

We're still waiting.

That did cross my mind , I wonder if the Bucks NIMBY voters will seek clarity from Ed Davey on his view on his housing strategy especially those adversely effected in the wonderful leafy /wealthy suburban areas .

Affordable housing , new trains yes , but not near us .

[dml1954]

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Agreed.

I'm pro-independence, but first and foremost, we have to get rid of the Tories.

Less of the ‘we’ please. Its your personal opinion only.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Less of the ‘we’ please. Its your personal opinion only.

Its the majority opinion of those who vote and has been for years

You are clearly a tory thats up to you , but most of the country are not