John Bercow defects to Labour.

[Whisperer]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

If I was Labour i wouldn't have let him join and fecked him off just like Wimbledon tennis club did which he is still seething over.
He's a pompous little twat and comes across like the host of the good ole day's self righteous to the core.

[Hilts]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

Well done Bercow.

Obviously couldnt stomach the bufoon and co. any longer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

I wish everyone would defect to the democratic alliance party or something

Labour has had it and if it formed a new party in England with the flower power lot , the liberals and moderate tories there might be a chance of giving it to the conservatives right up the back passage

As it stands this country is a one party state

Of public school boys

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

So apart from the fact that Labour and Conservatives don't take turns at being speaker, the voting records on electing a Speaker are unproven, that his seat was regularly contested by other parties whilst he was Speaker and he is not a Labour MP I couldn't agree more!

[dml1954]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

I wish everyone would defect to the democratic alliance party or something

Labour has had it and if it formed a new party in England with the flower power lot , the liberals and moderate tories there might be a chance of giving it to the conservatives right up the back passage

As it stands this country is a one party state

Of public school boys

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

[Hilts]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

Yep some people appear to be happy and see success as they have more food banks.

Starmer needs to wise up as people voting for the worst PM and front bench in history is staggering.

At least Wales saw sense.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

Not that many , the tory party is not the all encompassing church people like you think it is

Mostly daft little englanders and brexit types

Don't blame me when it all goes crackers

If the opposition unites the tories will get blown out of the water , this country is crying out for a moderate alternative to the tories who will soon shit on those that voted them in . Its what they do

The question is , will it the opposition parties in England unite ?

Its the only way realistically now the Scottish nationalists have taken a shed load of labour seats

I got pissed off with labour after a few years of Blair, his meddling in Iraq was a no no and the emergence from the other side of momentum and the likes of Diane Abbott .....someone put her to sleep please ....still hanging around means I am convinced now is the watershed time in British politics .

Accept that the labour and Liberal parties are dead , attract moderate , left leaning tories like Sarah Wollaston , who is now without a party and get on with an alternative

Boris , Gove , Patel , Hancock and the rest are right wing libertarian tosspots , they are a corrupt bunch of liars and any decent opposition would sort them out

But we don't have one and until we do they can do what they like

Starmer isn't the problem , his party in England and Scotland is the problem

[AfricanBluebird]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

There should be enough common ground between Labour, the LibDems and the Greens in England to form a strong alliance.

Defeating the Tories should be a priority.

Democracy is at risk as the Tories strip away constituencies, transparency, independence from regulating bodies, accountability and voting rights (watch this space).. in order to remain in power and grift for a generation for themselves and their elitist chums.

So individual party mandates should all come second to defeating the Tories

[xsnaggle]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

Not that many , the tory party is not the all encompassing church people like you think it is

Mostly daft little englanders and brexit types

Don't blame me when it all goes crackers

If the opposition unites the tories will get blown out of the water , this country is crying out for a moderate alternative to the tories who will soon shit on those that voted them in . Its what they do

The question is , will it the opposition parties in England unite ?

Its the only way realistically now the Scottish nationalists have taken a shed load of labour seats

I got pissed off with labour after a few years of Blair, his meddling in Iraq was a no no and the emergence from the other side of momentum and the likes of Diane Abbott .....someone put her to sleep please ....still hanging around means I am convinced now is the watershed time in British politics .

Accept that the labour and Liberal parties are dead , attract moderate , left leaning tories like Sarah Wollaston , who is now without a party and get on with an alternative

Boris , Gove , Patel , Hancock and the rest are right wing libertarian tosspots , they are a corrupt bunch of liars and any decent opposition would sort them out

But we don't have one and until we do they can do what they like

Starmer isn't the problem , his party in England and Scotland is the problem

you always use the word libertarian as if it is some kind of crime. does that mean you believe in the nanny state, intervention in every aspect of peoples lives and control of the masses?

[Jordi Culé]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

you always use the word libertarian as if it is some kind of crime. does that mean you believe in the nanny state, intervention in every aspect of peoples lives and control of the masses?

I always find it ironic that a libertarian has restricted our freedom and choice of working and living in the 27 closest countries to the UK.

It's hilarious really.

[Freitag 4.17]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

I always find it ironic that a libertarian has restricted our freedom and choice of working and living in the 27 closest countries to the UK.

It's hilarious really.

Well said.

[xsnaggle]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

I always find it ironic that a libertarian has restricted our freedom and choice of working and living in the 27 closest countries to the UK.

It's hilarious really.

Agreed, but that doesn't explain why sludge always tries to use the word like an insult, the same way as he tries to use ballet opera and classical music.
In his totalitarian society would those things be banned?

[WJ99mobile]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

and pigs might fly

Better than half the crap they got in the party

[jon1959]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

Agreed, but that doesn't explain why sludge always tries to use the word like an insult, the same way as he tries to use ballet opera and classical music.
In his totalitarian society would those things be banned?

Sludge's 'totalitarian society'?

Really?

Sludge has spent the last few months constantly arguing for a new governing party to be magicked up based on the Lib Dems, the right wing of the Labour Party, a few Greens and a few stray nationalists. Starmer's Labour (with the strings pulled by the old Blairite cabal) might have some Stalinist tendencies - but the whole package looks as far from totalitarianism as you can get.

[Tuerto]

Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

Not that many , the tory party is not the all encompassing church people like you think it is

Mostly daft little englanders and brexit types

Don't blame me when it all goes crackers

If the opposition unites the tories will get blown out of the water , this country is crying out for a moderate alternative to the tories who will soon shit on those that voted them in . Its what they do

The question is , will it the opposition parties in England unite ?

Its the only way realistically now the Scottish nationalists have taken a shed load of labour seats

I got pissed off with labour after a few years of Blair, his meddling in Iraq was a no no and the emergence from the other side of momentum and the likes of Diane Abbott .....someone put her to sleep please ....still hanging around means I am convinced now is the watershed time in British politics .

Accept that the labour and Liberal parties are dead , attract moderate , left leaning tories like Sarah Wollaston , who is now without a party and get on with an alternative

Boris , Gove , Patel , Hancock and the rest are right wing libertarian tosspots , they are a corrupt bunch of liars and any decent opposition would sort them out

But we don't have one and until we do they can do what they like

Starmer isn't the problem , his party in England and Scotland is the problem

How can you possibly have a left leaning Tory? **** me sludge, check yourself, will you. A politician has to get to the centre before leaning to one side.