Dominic Raab

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Dominic Raab

Or maybe:

1 - What you say happened, in fact didnt
2 - Whoever made the call wouldnt have made any difference
3 - People think its a side show to more important matters (like the ongoing airlift evacuations)

I've voted for all major parties and will gladly criticise the Tories, but just not on this trumped up charge of holiday speculation when far more important matters are taking place.

1. I didn't say that's what happened though, that is a fact of what happened. He was on holiday and stayed on holiday even though all this was going on.
2. It not making a difference seems to be an opinion not a fact.
3. No one thinks it's more important but is it not important that the foreign secretary can make correct judgement calls?

[lardy]

Re: Dominic Raab

Or maybe:

1 - What you say happened, in fact didnt
2 - Whoever made the call wouldnt have made any difference
3 - People think its a side show to more important matters (like the ongoing airlift evacuations)

I've voted for all major parties and will gladly criticise the Tories, but just not on this trumped up charge of holiday speculation when far more important matters are taking place.

His own department have not disputed the main facts.

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Dominic Raab

JamesWales performance in this thread has been the best display of ccmb boot licking we've ever had. Fair play to the lad.

[J R Hartley]

Re: Dominic Raab

JamesWales performance in this thread has been the best display of ccmb boot licking we've ever had. Fair play to the lad.

Hes a btec WalesBales

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Dominic Raab

Hes a btec WalesBales

[JamesWales]

Re: Dominic Raab

JamesWales performance in this thread has been the best display of ccmb boot licking we've ever had. Fair play to the lad.

It's not bootlicking, I just think you are talking nonsense, have provided no evidence to back up what you say, are being an example of Captain Hindsight and are more interested in gossip about holidays than the fact we are airlifting people to safety in their thousands.

It's a fact that thousands are being airlifted to safety.

It's not a fact that a phone call that may or may not have been made has had any material impact on safety at all. Indeed, for all you know, direct contact with a UK govt minister may put former Afghan ministers in more danger with the Taliban.

Best to deal with facts I think. If we weren't evacuating people and working on the ground now then I would wholly agree with the criticism...but we are, so I don't.

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Dominic Raab

I didn’t report the story you soppy bollocks. It’s facts and his own department have confirmed he was on holiday and a junior made the call.

It’s got nothing to do with the normal evacuation either but about the translators. Which is pretty important when the taliban are hunting down anyone who complied with outside forces.

Raab is a **** and has acted like a **** yet again, carry on bootlicking though

[JamesWales]

Re: Dominic Raab

In one sentence there you are both saying that the Taliban are hunting down those who complied with outside forces whilst also insisting that the head of foreign affairs in those same outside forces should be personally making specific phone calls.

I think that demonstrates that this is a complex, nuanced issue that is more complicated than you give it credit.

We can see people leaving in fkn British planes. That's evidence.

There is no evidence that him not making a specific phone call has had any impact on anyone whatsoever. If you can prove it has then I would entirely agree with you.

[Baloo]

Re: Dominic Raab

Or maybe:

1 - What you say happened, in fact didnt
2 - Whoever made the call wouldnt have made any difference
3 - People think its a side show to more important matters (like the ongoing airlift evacuations)

I've voted for all major parties and will gladly criticise the Tories, but just not on this trumped up charge of holiday speculation when far more important matters are taking place.

Actually on point 2 it's reported the call was delayed by a day because it was received from a junior minister and not the Afghan Minister Of Foreign Affairs' direct UK equivalent. I guess pecking-orders are important in these circles.

[Hilts]

Re: Dominic Raab

It's not bootlicking, I just think you are talking nonsense, have provided no evidence to back up what you say, are being an example of Captain Hindsight and are more interested in gossip about holidays than the fact we are airlifting people to safety in their thousands.

It's a fact that thousands are being airlifted to safety.

It's not a fact that a phone call that may or may not have been made has had any material impact on safety at all. Indeed, for all you know, direct contact with a UK govt minister may put former Afghan ministers in more danger with the Taliban.

Best to deal with facts I think. If we weren't evacuating people and working on the ground now then I would wholly agree with the criticism...but we are, so I don't.

6. Captain Hindsight. Another Tory whine all too common after the bufoon and co s continuous feck ups.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Dominic Raab

Oh, the bastion of truth!

the queen is over a thousand years old , she's not going remember everything..c'mon

[Tuerto]

Re: Dominic Raab

Should have a list of Tory boy whining.

1 but but but Jeremy Corbyn
2 but but but Diane Abbott
3 poor Boris such difficult times.
4 they are only criticising for political point scoring.
5 At least Boris hasnt stopped me getting my lamb chops at my preferred butchers.

No 5

[life on mars]

Re: Dominic Raab

Raab was always an underachiever.

If you remember when Boris was critically unwell with Covid, Raab stepped up and looked like a startled rabbit and was completely out of his depth .

Who in thier right mind would want to be a politician.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Dominic Raab

JamesWales performance in this thread has been the best display of ccmb boot licking we've ever had. Fair play to the lad.

He's not very good at this winding up lark is he.

Meanwhile, it seems that the call wasn't made at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/19/dominic-raab-faces-pressure-from-opposition-and-tory-mps-to-resign