Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

[ninian opinian]

Another absolute corker today

https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1428309078468665345?s=21

He’s opening a cancer ward at an existing hospital not a new hospital.

Why lie?

[life on mars]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

Why does society lie

[ninian opinian]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

Why does society lie

Any comments on this Torys lies? Why do it, it’s absolutely embarrassing. Should be sacked for blatantly lying.

[life on mars]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

Any comments on this Torys lies? Why do it, it’s absolutely embarrassing. Should be sacked for blatantly lying.

They are part of the ( society ) I am referring too ?

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

Another absolute corker today

https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1428309078468665345?s=21

He’s opening a cancer ward at an existing hospital not a new hospital.

Why lie?

It is on The Cumberland Infirmary site but it is not a ward at that Hospital

Here is the information on the wards at the Cumberland Infirmary

https://www.ncic.nhs.uk/locations/cumberland-infirmary/opening-visiting-times

The Northern Centre for Cancer Care, North Cumbria is actually a partnership between The North Cumbria Integrated Trust (NCIC) and the Newcastle Upon Tyne Hospitals Trust, but it is actually on the Newcastle Upon Tyne Hospitals Trust in its Hospitals section

https://www.newcastle-hospitals.nhs.uk/hospitals/

[life on mars]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

Can anyone produced a politician lying list from the last 20 years please, I'm sure there will a cross party mix f denials in the first instance from drug taking ,driving with no license with jail time attached ,falsely claiming expenses ,fraud, harassment, drugs, going to war under false pretense . Etc etc

[Seabird]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

They can't help themselves, it's what they have been brought up to think it is normal and acceptable. The trouble with this lot is that they are so brazen about it and don't care that we know that they are lying. They hold us in contempt.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

It's their go-to tactic, same as Trump and other right wing leaders. Enough idiots on social media / reading the Express/Mail etc will believe it, and if anyone does challenge them they'll either ignore it or tell another lie.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

It's their go-to tactic, same as Trump and other right wing leaders. Enough idiots on social media / reading the Express/Mail etc will believe it, and if anyone does challenge them they'll either ignore it or tell another lie.

So do you agree with Ninian Opinion that Sajid Javid was simply opening a ward at at existing hospital?

Or did you see my post where I pointed out that the new centre ( Northern Centre for Cancer Care North Cumbria) is actually NOT a part of the Cumberland Royal Infirmary but is down as a hospital on the Newcastle upon Tyne Hospital Trust website??.

I will admit that I am trying to find out any standard for what is a hospital rather than a Medical Centre, but this centre is plainly more than just a ward at an existing hospital.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

Can anyone produced a politician lying list from the last 20 years please, I'm sure there will a cross party mix f denials in the first instance from drug taking ,driving with no license with jail time attached ,falsely claiming expenses ,fraud, harassment, drugs, going to war under false pretense . Etc etc

It would be a very long list.

Surprisingly it would contain many non Tories too.

Though it would certainly contain Boris Johnson!!

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

So do you agree with Ninian Opinion that Sajid Javid was simply opening a ward at at existing hospital?

Or did you see my post where I pointed out that the new centre ( Northern Centre for Cancer Care North Cumbria) is actually NOT a part of the Cumberland Royal Infirmary but is down as a hospital on the Newcastle upon Tyne Hospital Trust website??.

I will admit that I am trying to find out any standard for what is a hospital rather than a Medical Centre, but this centre is plainly more than just a ward at an existing hospital.

My point was more of a general one than specific to Javid's tweet, but, he was opening a new facility that's on the Cumberland Infirmary site, replacing a building that was previously part of the Infirmary before it was demolished. It can be labelled a hospital, but it's part of an existing hospital in reality.
It was also commissioned years before the 2019 election, so claiming that you're opening "one of new 48 hospitals" is disingenuous at best.
I'm sure it's a great facility, but I'm also sure it's not what most people had in mind from the 40 (now 48) new hospitals pledge.

[ninian opinian]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

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:-) I rest my case.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

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:-) I rest my case.

Since I can't see what it says I can't comment. I will try and find it on the net. But just because an article is in the Guardian doesn't make it correct.

You never responded to my reply to your original post mind. I'm sure it can't be because you agree with me!

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

At least some politicians have guts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-55101831

[life on mars]

Re: Why do Tories ALWAYS lie?

At least some politicians have guts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-55101831

That sort of behaviour would bring politics back to the ordinary people in the UK ,and get pull them away from watching Love Island.