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  • #61
    Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

    Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    There is a group called Christian mothers against masturbation.
    Have u got a link ?

    I would like to do an online presentation

    A mass debate for want of a better word 🤔

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    • #62
      Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      I don't think people who are you average Joe go to church

      The kids who I grew up with and were cool to be with were not in church on a Sunday

      They were listening to metal , fishing and playing football


      The only reason why the church has changed is because society has demanded that it did

      It's still outdated though with little relevance to 2021

      I know people who give to the local food bank who are church goers and all goody goody and others who wouldn't be seen dead anywhere near a church yet give loads of money to save the children , the homeless etc

      Religion doesn't have a monopoly on child abuse but it also doesn't have a monopoly on good deeds either

      You can be a member of a train spotting club and do loads for charity

      I can't stand that saying to be good is to be a Christian
      How weird is that? My childhood was completely the opposite!

      It never ceases to amaze me that people actually think calling others goody, goody or 'do-gooders' is some form of insult when it's completely the opposite. How to alienate people Sludge. Way to go.

      But I'm going to rejoice in a miracle.

      A post turned into whine.

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      • #63
        Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
        I don't think people who are you average Joe go to church

        The kids who I grew up with and were cool to be with were not in church on a Sunday

        They were listening to metal , fishing and playing football
        So your definition of an average Joe is different. It doesn't make for a balanced story,

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        • #64
          Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

          Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
          Would you say that all poor people are just lazy, people who suffer with mental health are weak etc? Of course you wouldn't, as that would be generalising, which almost certainly panders to the most extreme amongst us, and as a result, ends In people being persecuted because of a certain belief etc
          Some poor people are lazy, some are not. Some rich people are lazy, some are not.

          ALL those "with religious faith" are deluded. They are also dangerous. I give you Afghanistan and the Taliban...

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          • #65
            Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

            Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
            The Quakers are indeed interesting. A retired doctor in my evening class is one and told me a little of what they do in their meetings.
            The Shakers are more interesting. They died out because they didn't believe in sex. You couldn't make it up with religious BS...

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            • #66
              Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

              Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
              How weird is that? My childhood was completely the opposite!

              It never ceases to amaze me that people actually think calling others goody, goody or 'do-gooders' is some form of insult when it's completely the opposite. How to alienate people Sludge. Way to go.

              But I'm going to rejoice in a miracle.

              A post turned into whine.
              So you went to church every Sunday as a 14 year old kid whilst others were out fishing , playing football , listening to music ?

              I think I had a normal childhood myself

              I don't think it's normal for 14 year old boys to be singing religious songs with their parents

              Christians do good things

              Ordinary people do good things

              The bible tells Christians if they do good acts they will go to heaven but only if they also worship God and Jesus

              I would rather be an ordinary person who does good things then we can cut out the church bit and you can then be certain someone collecting for the homeless is a good person not doing it to get them to paradise

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              • #67
                Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                Originally posted by az city View Post
                Some poor people are lazy, some are not. Some rich people are lazy, some are not.

                ALL those "with religious faith" are deluded. They are also dangerous. I give you Afghanistan and the Taliban...
                Heck, this is going way too far.

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                • #68
                  Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                  Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                  Heck, this is going way too far.
                  Forgive me.

                  (Credit to Bill Hicks.)

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                  • #69
                    Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                    Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                    So your definition of an average Joe is different. It doesn't make for a balanced story,
                    It appears perfectly normal for young lads to go fishing be attracted to girls .....or boys .....go fishing ......drink alcohol ......look at porn , listen to rock , disco , metal etc

                    And young women too

                    When I was young once you realised God was a myth you stopped being dragged along to church and found other things to do with your time

                    I grew up a Catholic, my mother's side of the family were from Ireland originally . My mother still watches mass online as does my sister but nobody else in the family is interested . My cousins, all secular , grew up mountain biking , swimming , fishing , sailing , my sisters kids into cycling , horses , running . No interest in church at all .

                    It's like this for most people who are fed religion but realise its daft . The local Catholic church where I was first taken , I don't know of any of the kids who were there when I was 12 who go now .

                    It's boring and has very little relevance to most people and most people brought up in religious families fly the nest .

                    I think that's good as a reliance on faith to get you through life is not very realistic .

                    For example at Xmas my mother had pneumonia and was in hospital . In March the doctor phoned to say she was being discharged . One of mum's church friends , a very kind lady but totally sucked in by her Catholic faith phoned up and said how is mum ......I said she's coming home .......she said I knew all our prayers would be answered !

                    Mum came home , fell over and broke her hip and was back in the ambulance .

                    I mean either praying is a complete waste of time or they were not praying hard enough

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                    • #70
                      Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      So you went to church every Sunday as a 14 year old kid whilst others were out fishing , playing football , listening to music ?

                      I think I had a normal childhood myself

                      I don't think it's normal for 14 year old boys to be singing religious songs with their parents

                      Christians do good things

                      Ordinary people do good things

                      The bible tells Christians if they do good acts they will go to heaven but only if they also worship God and Jesus

                      I would rather be an ordinary person who does good things then we can cut out the church bit and you can then be certain someone collecting for the homeless is a good person not doing it to get them to paradise
                      Aye but religious folks only do good deeds to curry favour with their (non-existent) deity of choice not necessarily because they recognize the inherent goodness in their acts

                      Non-religious folks do good deeds without the need for "heavenly" reward.

                      Who are the better group? Clearly the non-religious.

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                      • #71
                        Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                        Originally posted by az city View Post
                        Aye but religious folks only do good deeds to curry favour with their (non-existent) deity of choice not necessarily because they recognize the inherent goodness in their acts

                        Non-religious folks do good deeds without the need for "heavenly" reward.

                        Who are the better group? Clearly the non-religious.
                        I tend to agree with you

                        Maybe not better but probably more realistic

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                        • #72
                          Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                          Originally posted by az city View Post
                          Forgive me.

                          (Credit to Bill Hicks.)


                          Hey buddy .........come here !

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                          • #73
                            Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                            Originally posted by az city View Post
                            Forgive me.

                            (Credit to Bill Hicks.)
                            Ah, get it now

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                            • #74
                              Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              It appears perfectly normal for young lads to go fishing be attracted to girls .....or boys .....go fishing ......drink alcohol ......look at porn , listen to rock , disco , metal etc

                              And young women too

                              When I was young once you realised God was a myth you stopped being dragged along to church and found other things to do with your time

                              I grew up a Catholic, my mother's side of the family were from Ireland originally . My mother still watches mass online as does my sister but nobody else in the family is interested . My cousins, all secular , grew up mountain biking , swimming , fishing , sailing , my sisters kids into cycling , horses , running . No interest in church at all .

                              It's like this for most people who are fed religion but realise its daft . The local Catholic church where I was first taken , I don't know of any of the kids who were there when I was 12 who go now .

                              It's boring and has very little relevance to most people and most people brought up in religious families fly the nest .

                              I think that's good as a reliance on faith to get you through life is not very realistic .

                              For example at Xmas my mother had pneumonia and was in hospital . In March the doctor phoned to say she was being discharged . One of mum's church friends , a very kind lady but totally sucked in by her Catholic faith phoned up and said how is mum ......I said she's coming home .......she said I knew all our prayers would be answered !

                              Mum came home , fell over and broke her hip and was back in the ambulance .

                              I mean either praying is a complete waste of time or they were not praying hard enough
                              So, basically, this is all about your experience, not the wider population, people with a whole host of thoughts, beliefs, interpretations, experiences, occupations, political beliefs etc. I thought that we were exploring the nuanced shades of faith, rather than the sludge factory show.

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