The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Trump described Epstein as a "terrific guy" in 2002. Much speculation out there that his Pedo island was a Mossad honey trap to covertly film those not already with the agenda to get on board.

One of the released documents seem to imply that Eptein was providing information to the FBI. His home was kitted out with hidden cameras too.

[Heathblue]

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One of the released documents seem to imply that Eptein was providing information to the FBI. His home was kitted out with hidden cameras too.

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[Wales-Bales]

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I hope this letter isn't genuine:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd912xpV0AEJRwD.jpg

Trump Cancels Kim Summit, North Korea Says It Still Wants to Meet U.S.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/trump-calls-cancellation-of-kim-summit-setback-for-world

[the other bob wilson]

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Trump Cancels Kim Summit, North Korea Says It Still Wants to Meet U.S.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/trump-calls-cancellation-of-kim-summit-setback-for-world

In the Morgan Freeman thread you started, you said;-

"We've seen it time and again, it's all about having a position of power, and using that power in a very ugly way."

I agree with that and with what I think you are inferring about Trump and "the Art of the deal" - for now, I think we're seeing a form of brinkmanship regarding US relations with North Korea..

What I don't get is that, you can say that about Morgan Freeman and yet still not see Trump for the absolute piece of work that he is - by his own confession, Trump is guilty of the sort of things Freeman is accused of.

[Wales-Bales]

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In the Morgan Freeman thread you started, you said;-

"We've seen it time and again, it's all about having a position of power, and using that power in a very ugly way."

I agree with that and with what I think you are inferring about Trump and "the Art of the deal" - for now, I think we're seeing a form of brinkmanship regarding US relations with North Korea..

What I don't get is that, you can say that about Morgan Freeman and yet still not see Trump for the absolute piece of work that he is - by his own confession, Trump is guilty of the sort of things Freeman is accused of.

I don't think everything is what it appears to be. I get the feeling that Kim and Trump may be working in cahoots here, and the brinkmanship could all be a charade. In the latest letter from North Korea they are talking about unification with South Korea as a way to solve the problem, which would mean moving away from the huge influence of China (they are a satellite nation at present).If this turns out to be the case, then it really would be the art of the deal. I may be wrong, but the last two letters from Trump and Kim seem a bit "overdone".

[Veg1960]

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WB's feelings on a star abusing his position

"We've seen it time and again, it's all about having a position of power, and using that power in a very ugly way."


WB's hero and role model

"Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything
Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."

[Wales-Bales]

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WB's feelings on a star abusing his position

"We've seen it time and again, it's all about having a position of power, and using that power in a very ugly way."


WB's hero and role model

"Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything
Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."

I don't know where you get hero and role model from, I would be more drawn to a Corbyn type of character, but Trump is a candidate of change and he has an important job to do, somebody has to expose the dirty political system so that it can be cleaned up somewhat and we can start over again. Regarding the abuse accusations, if Trump is guilty he should certainly face the consequences. However, it doesn't help that all the accusations all came up during an election campaign, were organised by ambulance chasing attorneys, and were paid for by the Clinton campaign, who were also spying on Trump in order to prevent him from being elected/remove him from office. Hence your view is too simplistic, you haven't analysed the complexities of the situation.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I don't know where you get hero and role model from, I would be more drawn to a Corbyn type of character, but Trump is a candidate of change and he has an important job to do, somebody has to expose the dirty political system so that it can be cleaned up somewhat and we can start over again. Regarding the abuse accusations, if Trump is guilty he should certainly face the consequences. However, it doesn't help that all the accusations all came up during an election campaign, were organised by ambulance chasing attorneys, and were paid for by the Clinton campaign, who were also spying on Trump in order to prevent him from being elected/remove him from office.

I thought Veg1960 was referencing Trump's own words? There is no accusation just the words of either a sexual predator using his power in an ugly way or of course he course he could have been lying and making it all up.

[Wales-Bales]

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I thought Veg1960 was referencing Trump's own words? There is no accusation just the words of either a sexual predator using his power in an ugly way or of course he course he could have been lying and making it all up.

I thought he said it was locker room talk?

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I thought he said it was locker room talk?

Ah so you think the liar option?

[Veg1960]

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I thought Veg1960 was referencing Trump's own words? There is no accusation just the words of either a sexual predator using his power in an ugly way or of course he course he could have been lying and making it all up.

Beat me to it Cyril

Direct quote from Trump, no mention of attorneys, spies, campaigns. Just Trump's own words

"when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything"

You felt able (quite correctly IMO) to criticise Morgan Freeman for abusing his position, yet can't bring yourself to admit what a slimeball Trump is.

You accuse me of being simplistic and not grasping the complexities - perhaps you could point them out for me. Just to be clear I'm not asking about election campaigns, the Clintons, lawyers etc. Just Trump's words in relation to your stated feelings about Morgan Freeman. What exactly am I missing?

[Wales-Bales]

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Beat me to it Cyril

Direct quote from Trump, no mention of attorneys, spies, campaigns. Just Trump's own words

"when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything"

You felt able (quite correctly IMO) to criticise Morgan Freeman for abusing his position, yet can't bring yourself to admit what a slimeball Trump is.

You accuse me of being simplistic and not grasping the complexities - perhaps you could point them out for me. Just to be clear I'm not asking about election campaigns, the Clintons, lawyers etc. Just Trump's words in relation to your stated feelings about Morgan Freeman. What exactly am I missing?

Trump is disposable, he is not here to win any popularity contests. If he is guilty of anything then charge him, but it's pointless going on about him just because you don't like him .. nobody does! Trump has been selected to face down the socialist/communist/globalists and kick them out of Dodge. After the job is complete he will disappear into the sunset.

[the other bob wilson]

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Trump is disposable, he is not here to win any popularity contests. If he is guilty of anything then charge him, but it's pointless going on about him just because you don't like him .. nobody does! Trump has been selected to face down the socialist/communist/globalists and kick them out of Dodge. After the job is complete he will disappear into the sunset.

So you're admitting that, by getting considerably less votes than his opponent, Trump didn't really win the popularity contest that is the American Presidential election?

[the other bob wilson]

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I don't think everything is what it appears to be. I get the feeling that Kim and Trump may be working in cahoots here, and the brinkmanship could all be a charade. In the latest letter from North Korea they are talking about unification with South Korea as a way to solve the problem, which would mean moving away from the huge influence of China (they are a satellite nation at present).If this turns out to be the case, then it really would be the art of the deal. I may be wrong, but the last two letters from Trump and Kim seem a bit "overdone".

Unusually for me, I said much the same, but in far less words .

[Veg1960]

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Do you ever answer the questions posed to you?

You deliberately missed the point Bob was trying to make and have avoided answering mine twice.

I know it's absolutely pointless, but one more go.

How do you view Trump's comments, considering you condemnation of Morgan Freeman. Do they describe someone "using power in a very ugly way"