The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

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"We gonna win, win, win," said Donny.

Nice fun video Now go and do some homework and find out who went against the president on the healthcare issue, and then see if there are any possible reasons why they might have done so? It was a forgone conclusion right from the very beginning that any legislation he proposed would get tripped up. I'm not sure why you are so surprised by this.

[jon1959]

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Unfortunately, I don't read these forums that you speak of, but there are plenty of places to find info that is being leaked by well-placed sources on both sides. What we are witnessing is a full on war between two opposing factions.

I'm neither a Trump fan nor a Trump hater. I am merely watching as events unfold. If it is true that Trump and his team were incidentally monitored, there will be some trouble over this. And if after going to such lenghts they failed to find any dirt, it means there isn't any.

Other recent events to keep an eye on are the 7th Floor crew being sent on gardening leave, and the announcement that there is going to be a focus on human trafficking. It is already clear to a lot of people what all this means, so on the whole I would say the president is being proactive in a lot of areas.

We can all agree you're not a Trump hater. Apologist? Cheerleader? Devotee? But not a fan?

[Wales-Bales]

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We can all agree you're not a Trump hater. Apologist? Cheerleader? Devotee? But not a fan?

Just stick to the facts man

[Organ Morgan.]

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Nice fun video Now go and do some homework and find out who went against the president on the healthcare issue, and then see if there are any possible reasons why they might have done so? It was a forgone conclusion right from the very beginning that any legislation he proposed would get tripped up. I'm not sure why you are so surprised by this.

He supported the bill. I saw his tweet. I'm sure he said it was 'great.' Are you implying he was against it while publicly supporting it and that he triumphed by it getting pulled?

And I have to ask, has someone slipped a gullibility pill into your cuppa lately?

For him to have any credibility with me as a real opponent of the deep state he'd have start tweeting about issuing debt-free US dollars, auditing the Federal Reserve and Fort Knox where no-one has clapped eyes on their supposed 8,000 tonnes of gold for almost 60 years.

[Wales-Bales]

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He supported the bill. I saw his tweet. I'm sure he said it was 'great.' Are you implying he was against it while publicly supporting it and that he triumphed by it getting pulled?

It did cross my mind, as it would end up with the Democrats having to beg Trump for an alternative solution to Obamacare if the prices spiraled out control. So I don't think he is overly concerned with this decision, as the current system is going to implode sooner or later anyway, and he will be proved right again

[lardy]

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It did cross my mind, as it would end up with the Democrats having to beg Trump for an alternative solution to Obamacare if the prices spiraled out control. So I don't think he is overly concerned with this decision, as the current system is going to implode sooner or later anyway, and he will be proved right again

Why would the democrats beg? It's happening on the Republican watch. I'm sure they'd blame the democrats, but beg?

[Wales-Bales]

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Why would the democrats beg? It's happening on the Republican watch. I'm sure they'd blame the democrats, but beg?

Well actually it would be the voters who will be paying for higher medical bills and the Democrats will be blamed for bringing in Obamacare, so they will be taking all the flack while Trump will say he tried to fix it but they opposed him.

[lardy]

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Well actually it would be the voters who will be paying for higher medical bills and the Democrats will be blamed for bringing in Obamacare, so they will be taking all the flack while Trump will say he tried to fix it but they opposed him.

Republicans opposed him.

[Wales-Bales]

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Republicans opposed him.

Some Republicans opposed him, which I addressed above, but also all of the Democrats went against him, so they obviously still believe in Obamacare, or they just want him out of office along with those forementioned Republicans.

[lardy]

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Some Republicans opposed him, which I addressed above, but also all of the Democrats went against him, so they obviously still believe in Obamacare, or they just want him out of office along with those forementioned Republicans.

It doesn't matter what the Democrats think, the Republicans control everything. You've made an impressive list of excuses and Trump won't be taking the blame (he's already started shoving Ryan under the bus) but this goes down as another Trump defeat.

[CardiffIrish2]

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Some Republicans opposed him, which I addressed above, but also all of the Democrats went against him, so they obviously still believe in Obamacare, or they just want him out of office along with those forementioned Republicans.

Being the opposing party the role of the Democrats is to get him out of office.
Not really surprising.

[Organ Morgan.]

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Until Obamacare came into effect being forced into purchasing healthcare insurance was an alien concept for Americans. The new paradigm is they still must be required to have insurance but with different rules. Originally the Republicans wanted to repeal Obamacare, then they switched to reform or replace so that big pharma and insurance companies would remain quids in whilst denying the right of anyone not to have insurance for their own health without being penalised in the form of fines. The US used to be all about individualism but has gradually become more collectivist.

[Wales-Bales]

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It doesn't matter what the Democrats think, the Republicans control everything. You've made an impressive list of excuses and Trump won't be taking the blame (he's already started shoving Ryan under the bus) but this goes down as another Trump defeat.

It's hard to explain to those who view the MSM as some kind of bible, so you will just have to wait for the story to unfold in it's own good time. It's well known what role Ryan is playing and who he answers to. Let's just say it's all very murky

[Wales-Bales]

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Being the opposing party the role of the Democrats is to get him out of office.
Not really surprising.

Legally I hope?