The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I pity you.

It’s not just a conspiracy theory anymore!!!

Hunter Biden paid tens of thousands of dollars for prostitutes that were sex trafficked through an international sex trafficking ring!!!!!

This family is corrupt!!! pic.twitter.com/dWlGYK7FT1

— Graham Allen (@GrahamAllen_1) May 10, 2023

[MOZZER2]

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so it was really was treason after all

BREAKING: Special prosecutor John Durham publishes 300+ page report that confirms what everyone with a functioning brain has known since 2016

There was no Russian collusion

It was all a set to justify the Deep State spying on President Trump

We used to call this Treason https://t.co/xk1gi3p5mm

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) May 15, 2023

[MOZZER2]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

trumps reacted as expected

Trump on Durham report: "The American public was scammed, just as it is scammed right now.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

trumps reacted as expected

Trump on Durham report: "The American public was scammed, just as it is scammed right now.

You are a latecomer to this stuff Mozz so you can be forgiven for not realising this is not quite the triumphant valediction you think it is.

You see for the best part of 6 years your fellow travellers have bombarded this Board with gifted certainty that this was all a Deep-State plot to undermine and remove an elected President of the USA. Equally certain that the perpetrators, Strozok, Page, Brennan, Lynch, Comey and even Hilary Clinton would be brought to justice and shipped off in orange suits and chains to Guantanamo Bay.

Instead what we get after four years of hard grift is a report that rehashes something the OIG produced at the start of Durham's appointment, a single prosecution on a plea bargain and two outright acquittals of low ranking officials of the only cases that he could get to court. Even Durham in his 300 page self justification couldn't get a whiff of any plot against Trump....nada.

I guess I could base the majority of future contributions spinning the phrase Durham Conclusion Delusion in an endless loop but there is more than enough ludicrous back copy in this and other threads to keep me more than entertained for the forseeable!

[Wales-Bales]

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You are a latecomer to this stuff Mozz so you can be forgiven for not realising this is not quite the triumphant valediction you think it is.

You see for the best part of 6 years your fellow travellers have bombarded this Board with gifted certainty that this was all a Deep-State plot to undermine and remove an elected President of the USA. Equally certain that the perpetrators, Strozok, Page, Brennan, Lynch, Comey and even Hilary Clinton would be brought to justice and shipped off in orange suits and chains to Guantanamo Bay.

Instead what we get after four years of hard grift is a report that rehashes something the OIG produced at the start of Durham's appointment, a single prosecution on a plea bargain and two outright acquittals of low ranking officials of the only cases that he could get to court. Even Durham in his 300 page self justification couldn't get a whiff of any plot against Trump....nada.

I guess I could base the majority of future contributions spinning the phrase Durham Conclusion Delusion in an endless loop but there is more than enough ludicrous back copy in this and other threads to keep me more than entertained for the forseeable!

Were you the Captain of the Titanic in another life?

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

The Durham Report

A quick analysis

TECHNO FOG

15 MAY 2023

Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation – an inquiry into government corruption, lies to secret courts, the weaponization of the US intelligence apparatus, the FBI’s attempt to take down a sitting president – has concluded.

The Durham Report has been released.

Here are some of the main findings:

* “The FBI discounted or wilfully ignored material information that did not support the narrative of a collusive relationship between Trump and Russia.”

* Crossfire Hurricane “was opened as a full investigation without [the FBI] ever having spoken to the persons who provided that information.” Days after it was opened, Peter Strzok was telling a London FBI employee that “there’s nothing to this.”

* Internal FBI communications discussing the Crossfire Hurricane during its early stages: it’s “thin” and “it sucks”.

* British Intelligence pushed back on Mueller requests for assistance: “[a British Intelligence person] basically said there was no [expletive] way in hell they were going to do it.”

* Durham documents TWO investigations into Hillary Clinton - one involving the Clinton Foundation and one involving illegal foreign contributions to Clinton’s Campaign.

* In one Clinton Campaign investigation, an FBI confidential human source (CHS) had offered an illegal foreign contribution to the campaign through an intermediary. The Clinton Campaign was “okay with it” and “were fully aware”. The CHS offered the FBI a copy of the credit card charge; the FBI never got receipts. In fact, the FBI handling agent told the CHS “to stay away from all events relating to Clinton’s campaign.”


* In February 2016, FBI Assistant Director Andrew McCabe directed the Clinton Foundation investigation to be shut down. He walked that back after receiving push-back, but McCabe made sure that his approval was required for any further investigative steps.

* The New York Field Office was called on behalf of FBI Director Comey and informed to “cease and desist” from the Clinton Foundation investigation.

* The FBI and DOJ restricted both of those Clinton investigations, making sure that “essentially no investigative activities occurred for months leading up to the election.” In comparison, the FBI opened a full investigation into the Trump Campaign based on unvetted “intelligence”.

* The CIA had direct knowledge of the Clinton plan (“Clinton Plan”) to vilify Trump by linking him to Putin and Russia. On August 3, 2016, CIA Director John Brennon met with President Obama, VP Biden, and other senior Administration officials, including but not limited to Attorney General Loretta Lynch and FBI Director James Comey. At that meeting, Brennan informed them of the Clinton Plan:


* In September 2016, the CIA sent the FBI this information on the Clinton Plan to link Trump and Russia:



* Somehow, the FBI did nothing to vet or investigate the Clinton Plan - even though they were using parts of the Clinton Plan (the Steele Reports) - to investigate the Trump Campaign. Durham writes: “No FBI personnel who were interviewed by the Office recalled Crossfire Hurricane personnel taking any action to vet the Clinton Plan intelligence.”

* In fact, it was as if the CIA’s Clinton Plan memo was somehow buried within the FBI. Most members of Crossfire Hurricane “had never seen the intelligence before”. And, as we have previously discussed, it was never disclosed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in contravention to that court’s local rules.

* FBI Director James Comey was deeply interested in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation and micromanaged it, demanding the Carter Page FISA warrant, telling Assistant Director Andrew McCabe: “Where is the FISA, where is the FISA?”

* The FBI knew, relatively early, that its Carter Page FISA warrants were dubious. That FBI knowledge only intensified by 2018, as FBI analysts discussed how “Steele’s subsources could have been compromised by the Russians.” They were going to prepare their findings in a memorandum. FBI Deputy Assistant Director for Counterintelligence, Dina Corsi, met with the review team and directed them not to document any recommendations, context, or analysis in the memorandum they were preparing.” An FBI attorney was at that meeting. “He confirmed that the team was told not to write any more memoranda or analytical pieces and to provide their findings orally.” Corsi’s demands, according to one FBI Attorney, were “the most inappropriate operational or professional statement he had ever heard at the FBI.”



* Igor Danchenko, the Steele primary subsource charged with (and acquitted of) lying to the FBI, was paid $220K by the FBI as a confidential human source. This was paid after the FBI knew Danchenko lied to them. As the Durham Investigation proceeded, Durham learned “the FBI proposed making continued future payments to Danchenko, totalling more than $300,000, while [Durham] was actively investigating this matter.” The FBI, in effect, was seeking to influence a key witness who would later face criminal charges.

* The FBI’s reasons for paying Danchenko were certainly curious. Interviews with Durham’s office revealed: “the FBI's Executive Assistant Director for National Security, made clear that they were not even able to accurately describe the value or contributions of Danchenko that would justify keeping him open, much less making hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments to him.”

We’ll follow this up with a much deeper analysis hopefully by tomorrow. Part of that story is the problem with the Durham investigation: the fact that its scope didn’t include the attribution of the DNC hack.

Source:

https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-durham-report

[Heathblue]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

The Durham Report

A quick analysis

TECHNO FOG

15 MAY 2023

Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation – an inquiry into government corruption, lies to secret courts, the weaponization of the US intelligence apparatus, the FBI’s attempt to take down a sitting president – has concluded.

The Durham Report has been released.

Here are some of the main findings:

* “The FBI discounted or wilfully ignored material information that did not support the narrative of a collusive relationship between Trump and Russia.”

* Crossfire Hurricane “was opened as a full investigation without [the FBI] ever having spoken to the persons who provided that information.” Days after it was opened, Peter Strzok was telling a London FBI employee that “there’s nothing to this.”

* Internal FBI communications discussing the Crossfire Hurricane during its early stages: it’s “thin” and “it sucks”.

* British Intelligence pushed back on Mueller requests for assistance: “[a British Intelligence person] basically said there was no [expletive] way in hell they were going to do it.”

* Durham documents TWO investigations into Hillary Clinton - one involving the Clinton Foundation and one involving illegal foreign contributions to Clinton’s Campaign.

* In one Clinton Campaign investigation, an FBI confidential human source (CHS) had offered an illegal foreign contribution to the campaign through an intermediary. The Clinton Campaign was “okay with it” and “were fully aware”. The CHS offered the FBI a copy of the credit card charge; the FBI never got receipts. In fact, the FBI handling agent told the CHS “to stay away from all events relating to Clinton’s campaign.”


* In February 2016, FBI Assistant Director Andrew McCabe directed the Clinton Foundation investigation to be shut down. He walked that back after receiving push-back, but McCabe made sure that his approval was required for any further investigative steps.

* The New York Field Office was called on behalf of FBI Director Comey and informed to “cease and desist” from the Clinton Foundation investigation.

* The FBI and DOJ restricted both of those Clinton investigations, making sure that “essentially no investigative activities occurred for months leading up to the election.” In comparison, the FBI opened a full investigation into the Trump Campaign based on unvetted “intelligence”.

* The CIA had direct knowledge of the Clinton plan (“Clinton Plan”) to vilify Trump by linking him to Putin and Russia. On August 3, 2016, CIA Director John Brennon met with President Obama, VP Biden, and other senior Administration officials, including but not limited to Attorney General Loretta Lynch and FBI Director James Comey. At that meeting, Brennan informed them of the Clinton Plan:


* In September 2016, the CIA sent the FBI this information on the Clinton Plan to link Trump and Russia:



* Somehow, the FBI did nothing to vet or investigate the Clinton Plan - even though they were using parts of the Clinton Plan (the Steele Reports) - to investigate the Trump Campaign. Durham writes: “No FBI personnel who were interviewed by the Office recalled Crossfire Hurricane personnel taking any action to vet the Clinton Plan intelligence.”

* In fact, it was as if the CIA’s Clinton Plan memo was somehow buried within the FBI. Most members of Crossfire Hurricane “had never seen the intelligence before”. And, as we have previously discussed, it was never disclosed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in contravention to that court’s local rules.

* FBI Director James Comey was deeply interested in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation and micromanaged it, demanding the Carter Page FISA warrant, telling Assistant Director Andrew McCabe: “Where is the FISA, where is the FISA?”

* The FBI knew, relatively early, that its Carter Page FISA warrants were dubious. That FBI knowledge only intensified by 2018, as FBI analysts discussed how “Steele’s subsources could have been compromised by the Russians.” They were going to prepare their findings in a memorandum. FBI Deputy Assistant Director for Counterintelligence, Dina Corsi, met with the review team and directed them not to document any recommendations, context, or analysis in the memorandum they were preparing.” An FBI attorney was at that meeting. “He confirmed that the team was told not to write any more memoranda or analytical pieces and to provide their findings orally.” Corsi’s demands, according to one FBI Attorney, were “the most inappropriate operational or professional statement he had ever heard at the FBI.”



* Igor Danchenko, the Steele primary subsource charged with (and acquitted of) lying to the FBI, was paid $220K by the FBI as a confidential human source. This was paid after the FBI knew Danchenko lied to them. As the Durham Investigation proceeded, Durham learned “the FBI proposed making continued future payments to Danchenko, totalling more than $300,000, while [Durham] was actively investigating this matter.” The FBI, in effect, was seeking to influence a key witness who would later face criminal charges.

* The FBI’s reasons for paying Danchenko were certainly curious. Interviews with Durham’s office revealed: “the FBI's Executive Assistant Director for National Security, made clear that they were not even able to accurately describe the value or contributions of Danchenko that would justify keeping him open, much less making hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments to him.”

We’ll follow this up with a much deeper analysis hopefully by tomorrow. Part of that story is the problem with the Durham investigation: the fact that its scope didn’t include the attribution of the DNC hack.

Source:

https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-durham-report

Cilla says different 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just waiting back up from his jack booted partner in Fake nuuuuuz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Wales-Bales]

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Cilla says different ����������
Just waiting back up from his jack booted partner in Fake nuuuuuz ����������

Lardy & Cyril vs The Four Musketeers should be entertaining

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

The Durham Report

Part of that story is the problem with the Durham investigation: the fact that its scope didn’t include the attribution of the DNC hack.

Source:

https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-durham-report

Ah the, if only the investigators knew that if you removed a certain book from the the library it opened a passage. In there was all the secret stuff that would have proved that this was all a deep state plot to remove the President and enough evidence to send all the plotters to Gitmo.

Only they didn't. All they concluded was that a pissed up Trumpster shouting their mouth off to an Aussie Diplomat was legitimate cause to start an investigation but they should have been a bit more circumspect about its nature but the investigation gave legitimate cause for the Mueller investigation that followed. The one that jailed several members of the Trump club and indicted a host of Russians!

So, no plot, no-one gets to dress in orange, just Durham Conclusion delusion........damn I said I wouldn't do that!

[Wales-Bales]

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Ah the, if only the investigators knew that if you removed a certain book from the the library it opened a passage. In there was all the secret stuff that would have proved that this was all a deep state plot to remove the President and enough evidence to send all the plotters to Gitmo.

Only they didn't. All they concluded was that a pissed up Trumpster shouting their mouth off to an Aussie Diplomat was legitimate cause to start an investigation but they should have been a bit more circumspect about its nature but the investigation gave legitimate cause for the Mueller investigation that followed. The one that jailed several members of the Trump club and indicted a host of Russians!

So, no plot, no-one gets to dress in orange, just Durham Conclusion delusion........damn I said I wouldn't do that!

You seem to be asking the wrong questions, either by accident or design.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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You seem to be asking the wrong questions, either by accident or design.

Aw shucks. I seem to have been making a series of statements though rather than asking questions which if lacking facts please highlight. In the unlikely chance you could do that what are the right questions? And more pertinently, what are the right answers?

[Wales-Bales]

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Aw shucks. I seem to have been making a series of statements though rather than asking questions which if lacking facts please highlight. In the unlikely chance you could do that what are the right questions? And more pertinently, what are the right answers?

Ignoratio elenchi.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Ignoratio elenchi.

I guess that is one of the pitfalls of you being the Forum's ultracrepidarian as Feedback insightfully pointed out.

[Wales-Bales]

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I guess that is one of the pitfalls of you being the Forum's ultracrepidarian as Feedback insightfully pointed out.

On the contrary dear boy, I stay within the bounds of the latest thoughts and ideas, while you are stuck inside a perpetual time warp!

[jon1959]

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I guess that is one of the pitfalls of you being the Forum's ultracrepidarian as Feedback insightfully pointed out.

And coming from Feedback.... that must really hurt!