The Donald Trump thread

[Heathblue]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

For the record I think banning Trump from ballots is wrong. It’s not good for democracy. Let the American people decide who should be their president.

But any attempt to ban Trump from standing will only backfire. It’s bound to generate more support for him. Very similar to Israel’s approach to Hamas, which is counter productive and only going to generate more support for Hamas in the long term.

I would agree with this 100%

[lardy]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

For the record I think banning Trump from ballots is wrong. It’s not good for democracy. Let the American people decide who should be their president.

But any attempt to ban Trump from standing will only backfire. It’s bound to generate more support for him. Very similar to Israel’s approach to Hamas, which is counter productive and only going to generate more support for Hamas in the long term.

The people did decide who they wanted to be president in 2020.

Trump said in advance he wouldn't accept it if he lost, he put into action a strategy that attempted to keep himself in power, and it culminated in the US Capitol attack where about half a dozen people died, if I remember correctly. Since then, he has said in public multiple times that he intends to be a dictator - I wouldn't say that's great for democracy either.

If you take trump out of it and imagine this was someone running for mayor somewhere then there'd be no question - they are clearly not suitable to be eligible to run for public office. High ranking republicans dont think he's suitable, and the likes of McConnell and Graham said so immediately after the attack but soon changed their tune because they are frightened of him and his base. I'd say that's not good for democracy either.

I'd prefer him to be on the ballot and soundly beaten at the election, but I can't say it's good for democracy to have someone like him in the running. All countries (I would expect at least) have rules to disqualify certain people from running for public office, and these rules are not undemocratic, they are a vital safeguard that allows democracies to survive.

[stevo]

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I agree but the fact remains he hasn’t been found guilty of anything and that’s the problem. He was never fit to be president in the first place imo, but as I said, these current shenanigans are only going to generate more support for him.

[TWGL1]

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The people did decide who they wanted to be president in 2020.

Trump said in advance he wouldn't accept it if he lost, he put into action a strategy that attempted to keep himself in power, and it culminated in the US Capitol attack where about half a dozen people died, if I remember correctly. Since then, he has said in public multiple times that he intends to be a dictator - I wouldn't say that's great for democracy either.

If you take trump out of it and imagine this was someone running for mayor somewhere then there'd be no question - they are clearly not suitable to be eligible to run for public office. High ranking republicans dont think he's suitable, and the likes of McConnell and Graham said so immediately after the attack but soon changed their tune because they are frightened of him and his base. I'd say that's not good for democracy either.

I'd prefer him to be on the ballot and soundly beaten at the election, but I can't say it's good for democracy to have someone like him in the running. All countries (I would expect at least) have rules to disqualify certain people from running for public office, and these rules are not undemocratic, they are a vital safeguard that allows democracies to survive.

How many needless lives have been lost ( including children) under Sleepy’zzzz administration, or have you forgotten that bit ?

[Heathblue]

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How many needless lives have been lost ( including children) under Sleepy’zzzz administration, or have you forgotten that bit ?

Forgotton it?, I doubt very much it was actually considered, the cognitive dissonance is very strong with this one.

[TWGL1]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Forgotton it?, I doubt very much it was actually considered, the cognitive dissonance is very strong with this one.

Have you got anymore conspiracy theories as most of mine have come true. Perhaps that’s the problem , hence the attempted pile ons,

[Heathblue]

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Have you got anymore conspiracy theories as most of mine have come true. Perhaps that’s the problem , hence the attempted pile ons,

I don't do conspiracy however, I'm going luke warm on Big Mike running and leaning towards the "O" crime family being brought into focus in 2024 which will make it impossible for Mike to run.

[lardy]

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I agree but the fact remains he hasn’t been found guilty of anything and that’s the problem. He was never fit to be president in the first place imo, but as I said, these current shenanigans are only going to generate more support for him.

I wouldn't worry. Kamala Harris, as VP, has the authority to decide what electoral votes to count or not.

[lardy]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I see the leopards are now eating Nikki Haley's face

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-promotes-baseless-birther-conspiracy-theory-nikki-haley-rcna133166

[Dave Blue]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I agree but the fact remains he hasn’t been found guilty of anything and that’s the problem. He was never fit to be president in the first place imo, but as I said, these current shenanigans are only going to generate more support for him.

Isn’t this what the trials are for? Why shouldn’t someone stand trial for crimes just because they want to stand for election? He only wants to be president again to avoid jail.

[Wales-Bales]

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Do any insurrection experts on here know why Mr Jack Smith pulled the J6 Trump case from the DC court docket?

[Heathblue]

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Do any insurrection experts on here know why Mr Jack Smith pulled the J6 Trump case from the DC court docket?

Talking about insurrection, how long before Nanshi and the FBI gets exposed? for the event. Mike Pence seen as a traitor on the day by many prevented Nanshi from assuming Potus, I wouldn't be surprised if Pence isn't his pick again.

[MOZZER2]

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Do any insurrection experts on here know why Mr Jack Smith pulled the J6 Trump case from the DC court docket?

anything to do with Fani Willis DA of Fulton County admitting having a sexual relationship with the prosecutor in this case ?

or am i referring to another case i,m lost with all these cases against him

[jimmyscoular]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Jack Smith did not pull it from the docket. The judge did. The originally scheduled trial date of March 4 has become untenable due to Trump's assertion of presidential immunity. That assertion must be tested in the courts, including almost certainly the Supreme Court. So, the judge basically put the case on hold until the immunity issue is resolved.

[Wales-Bales]

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anything to do with Fani Willis DA of Fulton County admitting having a sexual relationship with the prosecutor in this case ?

or am i referring to another case i,m lost with all these cases against him

Is that the fella she allegedly overpaid using public funds?