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  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
    I never said he did. It's an illustration for people who think the world is a disaster, Trump is a disaster, everything is awful etc that it isn't the case.

    But if people are going to talk about how Russia/Ukraine is such a disaster under Trump (who is trying to end it) then by extension they should review what happened under the last guy.

    Doing so comes to a far more rational conclusion than what we normally see written about Trump
    Ah so you were being facetious, that didn’t come across in your post and almost seemed like you actually believed Biden was solely to blame for those incidents. Something that a self proclaimed “both sides” fence sitter wouldn’t believe in.

    Glad that’s been clarified.

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      Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
      Ah so you were being facetious, that didn’t come across in your post and almost seemed like you actually believed Biden was solely to blame for those incidents. Something that a self proclaimed “both sides” fence sitter wouldn’t believe in.

      Glad that’s been clarified.
      Of course he wasn't solely to blame. That is my entire point. Some of you are fixated on Trump being awful for everything but do not apply the same logic to the others. I was trying to illustrate how ridiculous that stance is.

      Seems we got there in the end.

      And I don't sit on the fence on this. I just think people who only see things in hyperbolic black and white terms are ridiculous. That's not the same thing.

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        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        Of course he wasn't solely to blame. That is my entire point. Some of you are fixated on Trump being awful for everything but do not apply the same logic to the others. I was trying to illustrate how ridiculous that stance is.

        Seems we got there in the end.

        And I don't sit on the fence on this. I just think people who only see things in hyperbolic black and white terms are ridiculous. That's not the same thing.
        You seem to believe all this nonsense about Trump the Nobel Peace Prize winner. All that has happened is that he has withdrawn the support previously given to Ukraine and, not only that the USA are now making Russia’s task easier for them thereby putting more lives at risk (American tourists were injured when the Ukrainian hotel they were staying in was bombed by Russia). America is now voting with the likes of Belarus and North Korea in UN votes condemning the Russian invasion - all Trump the peacemaker has done is changed which side his country is on.

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          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          You seem to believe all this nonsense about Trump the Nobel Peace Prize winner. All that has happened is that he has withdrawn the support previously given to Ukraine and, not only that the USA are now making Russia’s task easier for them thereby putting more lives at risk (American tourists were injured when the Ukrainian hotel they were staying in was bombed by Russia). America is now voting with the likes of Belarus and North Korea in UN votes condemning the Russian invasion - all Trump the peacemaker has done is changed which side his country is on.
          Not at all, but I do welcome that he is talking about peace and I think that in turn leads to others doing so too, in a sense that the narrative has shifted somewhat.

          I also view it as a requirement to speak to both sides to achieve it. I don't like his tone and language on it, but I think there's a bigger picture here and I think he can play a positive role there.

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            Peace. But at what cost?

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              Originally posted by stevo View Post
              Peace. But at what cost?
              Hitler could have pushed for peace after every single Jewish had been killed and Russia became a German province. Could he have qualified for the Nobel Peace Prize?

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                Trump is a tosser of the highest order and a very dangerous man

                Firstly he and his lover boy slag off zelensky

                Then yesterday after much background work by others he was saying he was optimistic of a " deal " ....on his and Russian terms obviously

                Today he's commenting " I am finding it very hard to deal with Ukraine " in that pathetic , scowling way of his

                A world statesman , washing dirty laundry in public like an old ponce

                I cannot believe anyone is giving this moron slack , he's completely unpredictable and worryingly surrounded by other nutters

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                  Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                  Hitler could have pushed for peace after every single Jewish had been killed and Russia became a German province. Could he have qualified for the Nobel Peace Prize?
                  Probably if it was in this day and age.

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                  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    Trump is a tosser of the highest order and a very dangerous man

                    Firstly he and his lover boy slag off zelensky

                    Then yesterday after much background work by others he was saying he was optimistic of a " deal " ....on his and Russian terms obviously

                    Today he's commenting " I am finding it very hard to deal with Ukraine " in that pathetic , scowling way of his

                    A world statesman , washing dirty laundry in public like an old ponce

                    I cannot believe anyone is giving this moron slack , he's completely unpredictable and worryingly surrounded by other nutters
                    100% I'm amazed people can't see through this tosspot

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                    • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      Not at all, but I do welcome that he is talking about peace and I think that in turn leads to others doing so too, in a sense that the narrative has shifted somewhat.

                      I also view it as a requirement to speak to both sides to achieve it. I don't like his tone and language on it, but I think there's a bigger picture here and I think he can play a positive role there.
                      He’s talking about peace, but America have to be given valuable rare earth minerals, not required by the previous administration, for them to operate in the way they have done for the past three years. There’s a name for what Trump is now trying to enforce and it’s protection racket “ the gangsters who operate them are looking for peace as well, but only on their terms,

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                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        Trump is a tosser of the highest order and a very dangerous man

                        Firstly he and his lover boy slag off zelensky

                        Then yesterday after much background work by others he was saying he was optimistic of a " deal " ....on his and Russian terms obviously

                        Today he's commenting " I am finding it very hard to deal with Ukraine " in that pathetic , scowling way of his

                        A world statesman , washing dirty laundry in public like an old ponce

                        I cannot believe anyone is giving this moron slack , he's completely unpredictable and worryingly surrounded by other nutters
                        Trump is just being Trump, he can’t help himself, but there are cowards in the Republican Party who have completely changed the nature of their public pronouncements on Ukraine to placate their unpredictable rogue President.

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                          'Agent Krasnov'?

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                            Presumably Trump is also keen on Europe and UK taking the lead on the Gaza conflict too since we are nearer, oh wait...

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                              Trump = Bone Spurs = Shit house = Putins kitchen because Putin knows the silly orange, narcissistic **** will look to 'make a deal' no matter what cost.

                              Don't get me wrong here, the war needs to end but at what cost, leaving a bullying **** putting it on everyone else around him?

                              I'm not fussed on Zelensky as it goes mind.

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                                Trump Putin Gets Me.jpg

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