The Donald Trump thread

[Heathblue]

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“If he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor, had to, in a way, validate Putin’s vision of greater Russia, but instead could really stand up to Putin, to make it clear there must be a ceasefire,”

How are you and Mozz's boy doing on Killary's endorsement,so far?

Not got that far yet, still discussing Sniffys cocaine habit and how he'll get around it again prior to the next peace chinwag

[JamesWales]

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Positive words emerging today re. a potential end to the war.

The fly in the ointment or course is that it seems it will certainly mean the loss of some Ukrainian territory and how acceptable that is, I don't know

[Heathblue]

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Positive words emerging today re. a potential end to the war.

The fly in the ointment or course is that it seems it will certainly mean the loss of some Ukrainian territory and how acceptable that is, I don't know

I see that Zelensky will be having his hand held by the coalition of the willing in the meeting, why who and what for is now for lessons learnt after it is declared over, both Z and Putin have lost significant numbers of their citizens and IMO neither will want to concede anything, once it is done and dusted it wouldn't surprise me to see civil war (Iraq style) within Ukraine and with Z having to flee to a safe haven to live on the alleged stolen money, he's been used as a proxy for NATO (according to many political analysts Jeffrey Sachs being the best placed as a source for this), and that NATO leaders will be holding his hand at the meeting suggests that he is not even in charge of agreeing a solution whatever it might be. Boris Johnson was the NATO puppet used previously the scupper a deal. Some analysts are predicting the land grab by Putin will be to the Dnipro river, I don't see this and that he (Putin) should just tell his troops to withdraw back to his border i doubt will happen, as you have mentioned there will have to be a loss of some Ukrainian territory and possibly withdrawal of US missiles (if there are any) in eastern Ukraine, chat GPT tells me there weren't any!!

[cyril evans awaydays]

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https://fortune.com/2025/08/18/newsmax-avoids-trial-with-67-million-settlement-over-false-2020-election-claims/

One minute Trump is blaming mail-in ballots and counting machines for his 2020 loss after chatting breezy with Poootin and the next minute one of his "out there" non-MSM outlets is spunking $67m up the wall in a settlement! Who to believe in stop the steal land?

[JamesWales]

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Today was a good day chaps. You can say it!

[jon1959]

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Today was a good day chaps. You can say it!

Has he announced a Russia-Ukraine ceasefire?

[JamesWales]

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Has he announced a Russia-Ukraine ceasefire?

No, but there are things that need to happen before then, and things seem to be aligning towards peace more than any time since the war started.

Today was a key step.

[stevo]

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Today was a good day chaps. You can say it!

It will never be a good day there until he stops the genocide in Gaza

[JamesWales]

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It will never be a good day there until he stops the genocide in Gaza

I mean given hundreds are dying every day in the Ukraine conflict, I would say that any movement towards peace there, irrespective of conflicts elsewhere, are still positive things.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Positive words emerging today re. a potential end to the war.

The fly in the ointment or course is that it seems it will certainly mean the loss of some Ukrainian territory and how acceptable that is, I don't know

This might help you understand how acceptable the loss of the bits of Ukranian territory that Putin and Trump are seeking to trade. Basically the Ukranian defensive line is pivoted on the bits of land that Putin has failed to get anywhere near and is seeking to win with a stroke of a pen.

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-war-in-ukraine-adolf-hitler-czechoslovakia/

[JamesWales]

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This might help you understand how acceptable the loss of the bits of Ukranian territory that Putin and Trump are seeking to trade. Basically the Ukranian defensive line is pivoted on the bits of land that Putin has failed to get anywhere near and is seeking to win with a stroke of a pen.

https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...zechoslovakia/

Yes, I do understand. There is no easy way out. I understand the Hitler references (for once on CCMB the reference to him is actually valid!)

The references are often glibly made though and ignore the fact that most wars end in compromise or total defeat. Defeating Hitler of course led to the loss of around 80,000,000 souls and laid the ground work for Stalins entrenched power and Mao to come, with millions more lost. So this idea that we have to defeat Putin is also soaked in danger and none of us have the real desire for it.

Personally I think any routes to explore the end of the war, with increased protections for the Ukraine in future, even if it does involve some territorial loss should be absolutely considered.

Not down to us anyway, but the more optimistic talks should be cautiously welcomed IMO.

[Wales-Bales]

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Shifty Shift in a spot of bother?

[Heathblue]

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Shifty Shift in a spot of bother?

After a slow start , the swamp is being torn apart at a rate of knots 😂 Tulsi is on a mission ❤️❤️❤️ I think it will be a while before we see that arrests, boomerang incoming.

[Wales-Bales]

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After a slow start , the swamp is being torn apart at a rate of knots  Tulsi is on a mission ❤️❤️❤️ I think it will be a while before we see that arrests, boomerang incoming.

They are all the Lardy & Cyril favourites too, funny that! It's also good to see our conspiracy theories are now becoming their conspiracy theories