The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Free Nicolas Maduro!

That was a reply to the other bob wilson.

[Tuerto]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Fair play Cyril, the older you get and the more boosters you take you are becoming completely unhinged, maybe i missed it but i do not remember you ever getting this irate with previous regime changes, Libya, Iraq, Syria the Balkans spring to mind not forgetting Ukraine, i'm a little more concerned for the people of Iran at the moment but hope that they manage to throw off the mullah brigade and return to the country to the people in that they can go about their business as in years before. These hard left commie dictators are getting taken down piecemeal and its a great thing, I wonder if a certain PM of a western country is currently looking over his shoulder at the moment?, he should be, I'll never be a fan of regime change by force as in this case and favour the Iranian approach, lets wait and see how much the people of Venezuela react over the coming weeks, i note that Maduro was recently trying to throw Columbia under the bus for his drug cartel problems. Your Go

Maduro isn't hard left, he's not even Left wing, check out his economic policies and who the people are that are benefiting from them.

[jon1959]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Trump fans on here getting very excited at the prospect of Trump Inc and his ‘real estate’ golf buddies getting rich on Venezuelan oil.

It must be like another Christmas for them!

[Dorcus]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Today Venezuela, annexe the Saarland next, then an assault on Poland, leading up to the long march to Moscow. American Lebensraum or sheer piracy? Heil Trump!

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

That was a reply to the other bob wilson.

Fair play to Bob when he said a few posts ago that your heart isn't in it any more.

The guy who stopped voting after WMD and Iraq and railed against regime change actions by other Presidents is left posting one line inanities.

Even now, you can't bring yourself to "jump off the fence". You would have thought you would have learned your lesson from Sally that just because you love someone unreservedly dooesn't mean they love you back!

[Heathblue]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Updated list.

1) Those Chavez Dominion Servers;
2) Shutting down those nasty drug cartels;
3) Good enough for the Commies and their ilk;
3) Yeah.............but whatabout?

1) Clinton's
2) Obama's
3) Brennan's
4) Comey's
5) Bush's

Decades of criminality and money laundering falling apart

Deep State retaliation incoming ?

[Heathblue]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Fair play to Cyril, he's as mad as a box of frogs

He seems to have lost his Mucka and BFF of late

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Fair play to Bob when he said a few posts ago that your heart isn't in it any more.

The guy who stopped voting after WMD and Iraq and railed against regime change actions by other Presidents is left posting one line inanities.

Even now, you can't bring yourself to "jump off the fence". You would have thought you would have learned your lesson from Sally that just because you love someone unreservedly dooesn't mean they love you back!

I was born to be the voice of reason, always a fence sitter, that's me!

[Heathblue]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I was born to be the voice of reason, always a fence sitter, that's me!

https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1422326/dl

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

He seems to have lost his Mucka and BFF of late

Life is tough when even your wingman doesn't believe your BS anymore

[the other bob wilson]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Life is tough when even your wingman doesn't believe your BS anymore

Why? Judging by your comments these days compared to what you were saying earlier in this thread, you don’t believe your BS any more either.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Why? Judging by your comments these days compared to what you were saying earlier in this thread, you don’t believe your BS any more either.

I always stick to the facts as I understand them to be, and I've never been any good at picking sides out of loyalty to some cause or other.

[JamesWales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Maduro isn't hard left, he's not even Left wing, check out his economic policies and who the people are that are benefiting from them.

🤣 They are never left wing when they fail!

[JamesWales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Depends who you mean by people I guess.

It is an open question how the people of Venezuela will act to this aggression. Will they rally out of patriotism or see it as an opportunity to overthrow the remnants of the regime with US backing?

The MAGA movement will probably shed some believers who thought Trump was different and find that he is as imperial as some of his predecessors. Department of War, clues in the title!

Apart from a few dissenters the Republicans in Congress will shrug their shoulders as the "King" yet again assumes powers that they constitutionally hold.

A bunch of billionaires and carpet baggers in stetsons will be licking their lips at the real prize of this special operation/declaration of war. Venezuela has almost four times the oil reserves of the US, who is plundering its own at a rapid rate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves

Certainly people like me who believe that Trump is an abomination will add warmonger to all his venality and immorality. You can concurrently believe that Maduro is a disgrace and think this is wrong.

The Trump apologists on here, several having gone deep on things like the the 2nd Iraq War and WMD, will wait for their favourite x feeds and websites to give them supportive talking points before they offer up "original" thoughts of their own. So far it is voting machines and the war on drugs but it is a fast moving environment!

Yeah, I mean the people of Venezuela. They won't all think the same, but what the general reaction is will be absolutely key.

I dont agree with the methods, and it's hugely risky and let's be clear, almost certainly illegal. But I should imagine that millions will be celebrating, particularly those who have fled the country etc.

Venezuela are allies of Putin and China too, so there's a bigger game here I think.

If the people accept it and free elections are incoming then that's what is key here.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Yeah, I mean the people of Venezuela. They won't all think the same, but what the general reaction is will be absolutely key.

I dont agree with the methods, and it's hugely risky and let's be clear, almost certainly illegal. But I should imagine that millions will be celebrating, particularly those who have fled the country etc.

Venezuela are allies of Putin and China too, so there's a bigger game here I think.

If the people accept it and free elections are incoming then that's what is key here.

The timeline on this so far:

1) Trump says at a press conference that the USA will run the country. He states that the Deputy President, Delcy Rodriguez will assist in this endeavour.

2) Shortly after, he throws the recent Nobel Peace Prize winner and widely believed winner of of the last election, Maria Corina Machado under a bus. Apparently because "she doesn't have the support or respect within the country". Strange thing to say about someone you were arguing was democratically elected but I guess she does have a proper Peace Prize.

3) Delcy Rodriguez, touted earlier as the puppet, goes on national television to state that Maduro is the only legitimate President, he should be returned and Venezuela "will never again be a colony for any empire".

As usual. The bombing bit appears the easy bit but none of this is shouting free elections any time soon!