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  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
    Well you didn't counter any of it - like the existence of a critical media, powerful opposition, free judges, removal by democratic means, existence of free protests etc etc. You just said I wank over fascism and am in a cult 🤣

    Must be some whiskey!
    You must have some amazing dreams! Whisky doesn't do that; what the hell are you on?

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      Simon Kuper, who's a very good football writer, has written a column in the Financial Times asking the question is Trump a Fascist? He thinks he isn't, but he hardly mounts a defence of the orange crook.

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        So, don wants Greenland basically as a buffer between Russia and North America so they can shoot those nukes down before they get anywhere near? Hmmmm….sounds a bit like what Putin wants with Ukraine? I’m sure that land of rich minerals and no doubt oil will be of interest as well…..

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          So, don wants Greenland basically as a buffer between Russia and North America so they can shoot those nukes down before they get anywhere near? Hmmmm….sounds a bit like what Putin wants with Ukraine? I’m sure that land of rich minerals and no doubt oil will be of interest as well…..

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            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
            Simon Kuper, who's a very good football writer, has written a column in the Financial Times asking the question is Trump a Fascist? He thinks he isn't, but he hardly mounts a defence of the orange crook.

            I note Kuper thinks Trump falls short of being a fascist by the omission of only one trait on the classic Umberto Eco list i.e. that he hasn't the obsession with constant wars. Kuper believes Trump is simply a narcissistic, amoral, hedonist and like all bullies will only initiate aggression against the weak. He is purely transactional and will plunder anything he can get so long as he doesn't encounter retaliation.

            It's hardly an acquittal. The World is a darker place with Trump in it.

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              Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
              I note Kuper thinks Trump falls short of being a fascist by the omission of only one trait on the classic Umberto Eco list i.e. that he hasn't the obsession with constant wars. Kuper believes Trump is simply a narcissistic, amoral, hedonist and like all bullies will only initiate aggression against the weak. He is purely transactional and will plunder anything he can get so long as he doesn't encounter retaliation.

              It's hardly an acquittal. The World is a darker place with Trump in it.
              Is it? Or did you just close your eyes and ears to it before he came along? Out of sight, out of mind?

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                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                Is it? Or did you just close your eyes and ears to it before he came along? Out of sight, out of mind?
                I think that's exactly what you do Jimbo and we are all getting a bit closer to understanding your real intentions. Jimbo the Gaslight King!

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                  Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                  I think that's exactly what you do Jimbo and we are all getting a bit closer to understanding your real intentions. Jimbo the Gaslight King!
                  Quite plainly isn't what I do though is it. I think a bit of balance is in order. USA is the most powerful country on earth. It deserves greater scrutiny than most for that reason, but not something out of all proportion, because that actually allows real tyrants to get aware with things far more.

                  You don't have to speak about them, but when you only scrutinize America it doesn't imply the best intentions and it suggests lives elsewhere are worth less.

                  50 protesters shot dead in Iran yesterday btw
                  The death toll is expected to increase as local hospitals report being overrun with casualties, including many with gunshot wounds, while some families are too terrified to get help.


                  Could post a hundred stories about extra judicial murder in Venezuela



                  Mass detention based on ethnicity in China
                  The Chinese government’s campaign against the Uyghurs in Xinjiang is multi-faceted and systematic. Core strategies of the campaign include identity-based persecution, mass detention, surveillance, enforced sterilizations, forced labor, and forced assimilation.

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                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    Quite plainly isn't what I do though is it. I think a bit of balance is in order. USA is the most powerful country on earth. It deserves greater scrutiny than most for that reason, but not something out of all proportion, because that actually allows real tyrants to get aware with things far more.

                    You don't have to speak about them, but when you only scrutinize America it doesn't imply the best intentions and it suggests lives elsewhere are worth less.

                    50 protesters shot dead in Iran yesterday btw
                    The death toll is expected to increase as local hospitals report being overrun with casualties, including many with gunshot wounds, while some families are too terrified to get help.


                    Could post a hundred stories about extra judicial murder in Venezuela



                    Mass detention based on ethnicity in China
                    https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-preve...of-the-uyghurs
                    Quite plainly it's EXACTLY what you do and you have neither balance nor moral compass.

                    We can see through your shenanigans. You are adopting the very same strategy other more famous ultra right figures have began to adopt by attempting to minimise the effects of Fascism and giving it a friendlier face to attract more widespread appeal.

                    Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was called out for this about 6 months ago with his call for conservatives (i.e. Right Wing Loons) to own the word Nazi so that it could be rehabilitated and made more acceptable to the masses.

                    We know this is your core strategy and it stinks. You have absolutely no idea what the word balance means because you are blinkered by your far right rush.

                    And by the way, whataboutism doesn't work any more given the perilous state of affairs this evil dictator is engineering in the US.

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                      Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                      Quite plainly it's EXACTLY what you do and you have neither balance nor moral compass.

                      We can see through your shenanigans. You are adopting the very same strategy other more famous ultra right figures have began to adopt by attempting to minimise the effects of Fascism and giving it a friendlier face to attract more widespread appeal.

                      Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was called out for this about 6 months ago with his call for conservatives (i.e. Right Wing Loons) to own the word Nazi so that it could be rehabilitated and made more acceptable to the masses.

                      We know this is your core strategy and it stinks. You have absolutely no idea what the word balance means because you are blinkered by your far right rush.

                      And by the way, whataboutism doesn't work any more given the perilous state of affairs this evil dictator is engineering in the US.
                      I'm starting to think you might be AI 🤔 No making photos of me in bikinis or jacks shirts please.

                      Whenever a point is made it is never answered - merely responded to with a ratcheting up of a random wholly unconnected insult. Yesterday I was wanking over fascists according to you. Today it's trying to bring back nazism. If I point out that China hasn't held free elections for decades, what will you call me tomorrow? Having maxed out planet earth's baddies, you'll have to go intergalactic! Ming the Merciless? Those weirdos who landed on the moon in superman in the black outfits?!

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                        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                        I'm starting to think you might be AI 🤔
                        Always Interesting? Thanks Jimbo 😂

                        I don't use Grok sorry

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                          We are all Mark Ruffalo.

                          Mark Ruffalo on Donald Trump: “The guy is a convicted felon, a convicted rapist, he’s a pedophile. He’s the worst human being in the world. If we’re relying on this guy’s morality then we’re all in a lot of trouble. I love this country and what I’m seeing here is not America” https://t.co/3Iq50XzHIF

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                            Originally posted by ninian opinian View Post
                            And those are just his good points!

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                              Always good to hear the views of the Hollywood slebs

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