The Donald Trump thread

[Sgt. Pepper]

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There are too many variables in play at the moment, it needs more investigation. Are the Alt-Left Soros's hired guns? We've seen many examples of his handiwork recently in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc,. Also you have to identify the agent provocateurs, are they the ones who are dressing up, using regalia and symbols to stir up trouble? The people on the ground are the bit part players, who are the real power brokers? From recent communications it seems like Trump, DOJ and FBI are on the case.

And what about these fellas?

You may well have some point or other within that.
I think we all recognise what I mean by visible, regalia loaded right wing hate groups, and why they are a dangerous thing, especially in difficult times.

This 'Alt-left' seem to be more clandestine and self contained. If they exist in any number. It will be interesting to see who or what they represent.

But what we might well see is: decent people who become motivated to confront Nazi style groups becoming labeled as 'alt-left' or subversive, as opposed to reactive anti -Nazi protesters.

I'm quite happy to say that I support the notion of being 'anti-nazi'.
Oh how laughably quaint of me no doubt... :rolleyes:

Anybody else here relatively confident of where they stand and happy to admit it?
Seems to me that one or two must have an alternative view? Anyone?

[lardy]

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You may well have some point or other within that.
I think we all recognise what I mean by visible, regalia loaded right wing hate groups, and why they are a dangerous thing, especially in difficult times.
This 'Alt-left' seem to be more clandestine and self contained. If they exist in any number. It will be interesting to see who or what they represent.

But what we might well see is: decent people who become motivated to confront Nazi style groups becoming labeled as 'alt-left' or subversive, as opposed to reactive anti -Nazi protesters.
I'm quite happy to say that I support the notion of being 'anti-nazi'.
Oh how laughably quaint of me no doubt... :rolleyes:

Anybody else here relatively confident of where they stand and happy to admit it?
Seems to me that one or two must have an alternative view? Anyone?

One group of people hates Jews, blacks, etc and the other group hate them so I'm comfortable saying I'm in the latter.

I'm quite sure both sides have been infiltrated to some extent, but I find it hard to believe it could be in large numbers without getting unmasked. There's no shortage of people in middle America who would like a return to the days of whites having everything, and no shortage of others who will fight against that.

[Wales-Bales]

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If someone had posted a video in the aftermath of the London Bridge attack saying it was just an accident, and asked "what would you do in that situation?" on here they would have been absolutely slaughtered* and probably banned. You're lucky that so few people read your posts.



Yes, of course I have. Can you show me the convincing evidence as I couldn't find it.



*not the best choice of word in hindsight

I haven't found conclusive evidence either way, but in a historical context there are many precedences, so I wouldn't be too hasty in giving a definitive answer like you have.

What has London Bridge got to do with it? That is an idiotic straw man argument! Observing the video footage, that guy found himself down a one-way street in the middle of an angry mob when somebody attacked his vehicle with a baseball bat or a similar object. I'm no lawyer, but I'm fairly sure this point will be brought up during the trial. I'm afraid you are confusing ones observations as being personal views, which seems to be a trait of yours.

[Dr Lecter]

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"We are literally like a third word country"

North Korea springs to mind.

But with a slightly more unhinged egomaniac in charge.

[lardy]

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I haven't found conclusive evidence either way, but in a historical context there are many precedences, so I wouldn't be too hasty in giving a definitive answer like you have.

What has London Bridge got to do with it? That is an idiotic straw man argument! Observing the video footage, that guy found himself down a one-way street in the middle of an angry mob when somebody attacked his vehicle with a baseball bat or a similar object. I'm no lawyer, but I'm fairly sure this point will be brought up during the trial. I'm afraid you are confusing ones observations as being personal views, which seems to be a trait of yours.

Other people in the past have been paedophiles, you have no evidence about this particular case, but that's enough for you? And you say I make idiotic arguments!

He was already accelerating down the street with no chance to stop before the "baseball bat" happened so if this is his defence in court I hope he hasn't hired an expensive lawyer to deliver it.

[Dr Lecter]

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I haven't found conclusive evidence either way, but in a historical context there are many precedences, so I wouldn't be too hasty in giving a definitive answer like you have.

What has London Bridge got to do with it? That is an idiotic straw man argument! Observing the video footage, that guy found himself down a one-way street in the middle of an angry mob when somebody attacked his vehicle with a baseball bat or a similar object. I'm no lawyer, but I'm fairly sure this point will be brought up during the trial. I'm afraid you are confusing ones observations as being personal views, which seems to be a trait of yours.

Just out of interest, what was he doing driving his car down there?

Not looking to catch you out (for once) because I genuinely don't know much about it. If the guy was there for the protest then why was he driving his car down the street instead of marching with whatever side he was aligned to?

[Wales-Bales]

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saying it was just an accident

By the way I said nothing of the sort. I posed a question along with some video footage. A libel lawyer would have a field day in court with you. Please pay more attention to what you read and write if you want to be taken seriously.

[Wales-Bales]

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Other people in the past have been paedophiles, you have no evidence about this particular case, but that's enough for you? And you say I make idiotic arguments!

He was already accelerating down the street with no chance to stop before the "baseball bat" happened so if this is his defence in court I hope he hasn't hired an expensive lawyer to deliver it.

There you go again, I have already said I haven't found any conclusive evidence one way or the other, and I haven't declared an outcome in this matter.

[Wales-Bales]

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Just out of interest, what was he doing driving his car down there?

Not looking to catch you out (for once) because I genuinely don't know much about it. If the guy was there for the protest then why was he driving his car down the street instead of marching with whatever side he was aligned to?

The background to what he was actually doing down that street has not been released. Somebody posted a video of what happened and I commented on it. I never claimed the driver to be innocent or guilty, I just pointed out that somebody had attacked his car with an object prior to the collision with the cars in front.

[Sgt. Pepper]

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There you go again, I have already said I haven't found any conclusive evidence one way or the other, and I haven't declared an outcome in this matter.

You surely must have found something regards this pedo story, otherwise you wouldn't refer to it regularly.

Lardy was asked, apparently in a typically haughty way, earlier whether he had ever looked outside the MSM on the subject

Now you say that you have nothing conclusive on it either..

Do you diners of the hallowed flesh ever get to illustrate the conclusion to any af your alt theories?!

A neutral observer would be bound to ask- Is it all nods, winks, dodgy websites and the perennial '..any time now..
?

[City123]

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Well I haven't denied anything have I, so I guess that makes you a little bit mental for trying to say that I have

And what evidence has been provided by many in this thread? It's mostly hearsay, anonymous sources and conjecture.

Fine, do you think Sandy Hook happened? Yes or no?

Also, nice going not bothering to respond to the other points in the post

Just for clarification, what do you have against reputable news sources?

[Mrs Steve R]

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Look at the stuff he's been posting lately. You don't want to associate yourself with that, Mrs R.

I don't always agree with every word he says but he's not a lone voice on here is what I was saying, I have said some things on here over the years that people don't like too, I think I was called scum when I questioned the isis beheading videos even though it was reported in mainstream news that they were fake, some things need to be talked about though imo.

Wales-Bales, Mrs Steve R was coughing because you are not a lone voice on here. There's her, Organ, me and a few others on the "alternative side". I discovered Velikovsky, Icke and Cooper in the mid 1990s so I've been ploughing this furrow for half my life.

You are very well informed and I applaud your anti-Hillary stance but let's face it, no one knows where Trump is heading. His insistence on blaming both sides for violence was encouraging though, in the face of a full-on MSM "progessive" shill onslaught.

The difference between me and WB is that he has always clung on to a small bit of hope that Trump might actually drain the swamp, I have never believed he would, for me to believe he is anything else than another puppet I would have to abandon everything else I believe and I can't do that, I'm sticking with Mr Griffin on this one.

[Mrs Steve R]

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Other people in the past have been paedophiles, you have no evidence about this particular case, but that's enough for you? And you say I make idiotic arguments!

He was already accelerating down the street with no chance to stop before the "baseball bat" happened so if this is his defence in court I hope he hasn't hired an expensive lawyer to deliver it.

I haven't seen any real evidence for pizzagate so I don't really comment on it but when you hear stories like on this radio show I just listened to you have to wonder what the hell is going on in this country, this is Samantha Richards a grandmother from Cardiff..
"We Call Social Services The SS. They Steal & Traffic Our Children. It's Evil."

[Wales-Bales]

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You surely must have found something regards this pedo story, otherwise you wouldn't refer to it regularly.

Lardy was asked, apparently in a typically haughty way, earlier whether he had ever looked outside the MSM on the subject

Now you say that you have nothing conclusive on it either..

Do you diners of the hallowed flesh ever get to illustrate the conclusion to any af your alt theories?!

A neutral observer would be bound to ask- Is it all nods, winks, dodgy websites and the perennial '..any time now..
?

Conclusive evidence = prosecutions or the published findings from an official public enquiry. Neither have happened, so in the meantime all outcomes are inconclusive in my opinion. I'm not sure how lardy got to his cast iron version of events though, he's a better man than me

[lardy]

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Conclusive evidence = prosecutions or the published findings from an official public enquiry. Neither have happened, so in the meantime all outcomes are inconclusive in my opinion. I'm not sure how lardy got to his cast iron version of events though, he's a better man than me

Don't write cheques you can't cash then, particularly about one of the most gruesome acts imaginable. Your neighbour probably hasn't been cleared of paedophiliac acts in court but do you spread rumours until he has? Because all outcomes there are inconclusive.

It's not a question of me knowing the cast iron version of events, it's about basic human decency.