The Donald Trump thread

[CardiffIrish2]

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My name is Paul Evans and I'm biased when it comes to Trump. There you are, I said it and I feel so much better for having done so. We may be from opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to the Donald, but you really should do the same because, despite your constant denials that you have a problem, it's all too obvious to others that you do. Acknowledging it would be a big first step towards regaining the life you had before.

Not even Donald Trump promotes himself in such a positive matter like Wales Bales does for him 😂

[lardy]

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My name is Paul Evans and I'm biased when it comes to Trump. There you are, I said it and I feel so much better for having done so. We may be from opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to the Donald, but you really should do the same because, despite your constant denials that you have a problem, it's all too obvious to others that you do. Acknowledging it would be a big first step towards regaining the life you had before.

It's fairly common nowadays to see people who are clearly aligned one way but say they aren't to add some sort of gravitas to what they're saying. For example, someone saying how bad Brexit is being handled by the Tories and qualifying it with "and I voted Leave", or saying how terrible the EU are "and I voted Remain".

It's similar from gluey- but without any kind of subtlety. We're supposed to think, this is all pretty damning and this guy is on the fence so it must be close to the truth. None of us are that dumb though

[Wales-Bales]

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My name is Paul Evans and I'm biased when it comes to Trump. There you are, I said it and I feel so much better for having done so. We may be from opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to the Donald, but you really should do the same because, despite your constant denials that you have a problem, it's all too obvious to others that you do. Acknowledging it would be a big first step towards regaining the life you had before.

Sorry to disappoint, but I will be staying firmly on the fence. I prefer to look at things factually, rather than emotionally.

[Wales-Bales]

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Not even Donald Trump promotes himself in such a positive matter like Wales Bales does for him ��

I'm not promoting anybody. I predicted the Russian hacking story would be nothing more than a fairytale, and I also have an inkling the DNC/RINO crowd are going to have a lot of questions to answer. It's just a matter of being patient and let's see what happens next.

[lardy]

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North Korea's nuclear tests are coming along at a fair old lick. We need Trump to get tweeting, maybe come up with another 'fire and fury' soundbite.

[Sgt. Pepper]

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I have an inkling that we will still be 'patiently waiting to see what happens next' at the time Don leaves office.
If he genuinely meant to 'do good' then I think he's taken on too established an establishment. Sadly.

I also have an inkling that 'draining the swamp' for the pure sake of draining it was never the highest of priorities for Donald himself, other than to attempt to create his own comfortable surroundings so that he could be 'Trump the Greatest' for as long as he pleased.
I also wonder whether those with a genuine interest in upsetting the apple cart have since departed.

[Wales-Bales]

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I have an inkling that we will still be 'patiently waiting to see what happens next' at the time Don leaves office.
If he genuinely meant to 'do good' then I think he's taken on too established an establishment. Sadly.

I also have an inkling that 'draining the swamp' for the pure sake of draining it was never the highest of priorities for Donald himself, other than to attempt to create his own comfortable surroundings so that he could be 'Trump the Greatest' for as long as he pleased.
I also wonder whether those with a genuine interest in upsetting the apple cart have since departed.

It's still too difficult to call, but at least you have some idea of what might be going on but it could also be that nothing is going on

[Wales-Bales]

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Jeez, just a few days after predictions by some that this was being set as a "nothingburger" (whatever that is) we get the jaw dropping expose of a failure to fully deregister the account of an accused fraudster as he was linked to a shared e-mail account. Pulitzer can't be far away for Sean and Luke on this one.

Rather than trivialising the matter, did you check to see who the other person sharing this secret email address was?

[Wales-Bales]

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Big week for Don!

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Big week coming up!
7:49 pm - 4 Sep 2017

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Rather than trivialising the matter, did you check to see who the other person sharing this secret email address was?

Once I got past 4 google pages of right wing conspirasist websites all salivating and amplifying the same thing I found this on one of them.

The [email protected] appears to be a typical test email account. Used for testing new applications or debugging. The email account is not linked to a user profile so Imran Awan will not be able to login using an RSA token, etc. into the house.gov network. This email account poses no danger, nor can Awan access emails sent to it (or send emails from it) after he was terminated.This story is a much ado over nothing.

That coupled with the fact that Awan never had security clearance suggested much ado about nothing. If there was anything more "sensational" in this I have a feeling it would be brought to our attention to be honest.

By the way, when this thread started your on the fence even handed wait and see great expectation of non-Trump related consipacy scandal were trafficking and the Seventh Floor of the State Department. Like someone recently said, hoping that something is true won't make it true.

[Wales-Bales]

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Once I got past 4 google pages of right wing conspirasist websites all salivating and amplifying the same thing I found this on one of them.

The [email protected] appears to be a typical test email account. Used for testing new applications or debugging. The email account is not linked to a user profile so Imran Awan will not be able to login using an RSA token, etc. into the house.gov network. This email account poses no danger, nor can Awan access emails sent to it (or send emails from it) after he was terminated.This story is a much ado over nothing.

That coupled with the fact that Awan never had security clearance suggested much ado about nothing. If there was anything more "sensational" in this I have a feeling it would be brought to our attention to be honest.

By the way, when this thread started your on the fence even handed wait and see great expectation of non-Trump related consipacy scandal were trafficking and the Seventh Floor of the State Department. Like someone recently said, hoping that something is true won't make it true.

Nothing I have said has been proved wrong so far. The 7th Floor of the State Department had a massive clear out of senior staff, as reported by the press. Trafficking is a huge problem as stated by numerous charities and government agencies. None of these situations have been resolved, they are still very much in play, as are the email problems effecting nearly every senior Democrat. There is a new guy in charge of the FBI, so we are going to find if there has been any wrongdoing when all the investigations are complete. There is no more Comey to stack the deck and let everybody off this time.

[Wales-Bales]

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The [email protected] appears to be a typical test email account

So would you be using this typical test email account as a personal business email address, and then give it out to random people who are renting a house from you?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3983049-Scan.html

Much ado over nothing indeed.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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So would you be using this typical test email account as a personal business email address, and then give it out to random people who are renting a house from you?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3983049-Scan.html

Much ado over nothing indeed.

Just so I understand what this is.

An accused fraudster, being separately pursued by someone for a debt gave that person the highly sensitive, back door into systems e-mail address that he may or may not be using for his clandestine actions (which may or may not include hacking DNC servers neither e-mail account has security clearance for) rather than an e-mail address that would make him more easily traceable.

When do we leap to the 100 times bigger than Watergate and Iran Contra bit?

[Wales-Bales]

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Just so I understand what this is.

An accused fraudster, being separately pursued by someone for a debt gave that person the highly sensitive, back door into systems e-mail address that he may or may not be using for his clandestine actions (which may or may not include hacking DNC servers neither e-mail account has security clearance for) rather than an e-mail address that would make him more easily traceable.

When do we leap to the 100 times bigger than Watergate and Iran Contra bit?

It's all a bit odd isn't it. He's also claiming he is so broke that he's been forced to drive for Uber to make money, yet he turns up in court with 3 top Clinton megabucks lawyers.

You may have made up your mind, but there are certainly enough descrepencies for me to keep my mind open.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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It's all a bit odd isn't it. He's also claiming he is so broke that he's been forced to drive for Uber to make money, yet he turns up in court with 3 top Clinton megabucks lawyers.

You may have made up your mind, but there are certainly enough descrepencies for me to keep my mind open.

I haven't seen anything in any media that shows any evidence that some hidden hand is funding his defence. I have made up my mind based on all the evidence provided so far that this is not much more than a fanciful alternative theory (Daily Caller reporter/Hannity Fox News) on how the DNC server information got to Wikileaks that can be used to throw doubt on the most likely theory that it was performed by the Russians and therefore some of the other elements being formally investigated (by special counsel of the DoJ, Senate and Congressional Committees) of potential collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia can get discredited. You have to jump off the fence once in a while based on the facts to hand and draw a conclusion. Time will tell if I am right or not.