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  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's the environment he is creating that is effecting change, not necessarily him directly. It's the changes in policy direction which are having knock-on effects.
    For the benefit of Gluey and Mrs R and anyone else who didn't understand the cheerleader post, I'm referring to things like this where Trump is being given credit for things that are nothing to do with him.

    Although if you can show which parts of US policy that have changed in 2017 that had the necessary effect on FIFA then I am happy to take it back.

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      Originally posted by lardy View Post
      For the benefit of Gluey and Mrs R and anyone else who didn't understand the cheerleader post, I'm referring to things like this where Trump is being given credit for things that are nothing to do with him.

      Although if you can show which parts of US policy that have changed in 2017 that had the necessary effect on FIFA then I am happy to take it back.
      Trump's entire UN address was anti-globalist. He was making the case for maintaing nation states. The poppy is a symbol of national identity. Are you getting the picture? ...

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        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
        Trump's entire UN address was anti-globalist. He was making the case for maintaing nation states. The poppy is a symbol of national identity. Are you getting the picture? ...
        Well I'm a little unsure why FIFA, a federation of different countries, would want to help abolish countries.

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        • Re: The Donald Trump thread

          Originally posted by lardy View Post
          Well I'm a little unsure why FIFA, a federation of different countries, would want to help abolish countries.
          Ditto the EU ...

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          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

            Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
            Ditto the EU ...
            Ah right, the United States of Europe. So you think FIFA are thinking along the same lines? They're trying to get rid of all the countries so there's just one global football team?

            Yeah, you might be on to something here.

            Hold on. Who will the global team play against? Oh no, I've spotted a flaw in the masterplan!

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            • Re: The Donald Trump thread

              Originally posted by lardy View Post
              Ah right, the United States of Europe. So you think FIFA are thinking along the same lines? They're trying to get rid of all the countries so there's just one global football team?

              Yeah, you might be on to something here.

              Hold on. Who will the global team play against? Oh no, I've spotted a flaw in the masterplan!
              There won't be any international football, only regional teams ... like in the erm, Champions League

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                Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                There won't be any international football, only regional teams ... like in the erm, Champions League
                So FIFA, which relies on the World Cup to make its huge profits, is getting rid of international football.

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                • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                  Originally posted by lardy View Post
                  So FIFA, which relies on the World Cup to make its huge profits, is getting rid of international football.
                  The last time I looked FIFA weren't in charge of removing existing national boundaries, or drawing up new ones.

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                    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                    The last time I looked FIFA weren't in charge of removing existing national boundaries, or drawing up new ones.
                    I think we all know that, at least I thought we all did until your odd suggestion that FIFA was complicit in the abolition of national symbols and beyond.

                    I'd like to hear more about the regional teams in the Champions League, though.

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                      Originally posted by lardy View Post
                      I think we all know that, at least I thought we all did until your odd suggestion that FIFA was complicit in the abolition of national symbols and beyond.

                      I'd like to hear more about the regional teams in the Champions League, though.
                      Were players prevented from wearing a poppy symbol during a match or not?

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                        Originally posted by Mrs Steve R View Post

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                        • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                          Were players prevented from wearing a poppy symbol during a match or not?
                          If you're referring to the home nations games last year, then no.

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                          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                            Originally posted by lardy View Post
                            If you're referring to the home nations games last year, then no.
                            I'm referring to whatever FIFA unbanned

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                            • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                              Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                              I'm referring to whatever FIFA unbanned
                              Sorry mate, so which match were players prevented from wearing the poppy in?

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                              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                                Roger Stone has released publicly the full opening statements that he is set to give to the House Intelligence Committee during today's closed session hearing.

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