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  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I agree, what is the point!
    Thing is I'm a left of center liberal, but even I could see that the entire system needed a reset after the Clinton, Bush & Obama years. And it looks like Trump with the backing of the good parts of the system are the only ones cable of doing the clean-up, so we will just have to live with that for the greater good.

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    • Re: The Donald Trump thread

      Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
      and there was me thinking that whenever the Mueller thing moves on such as the suggestion that Flynn (the next step up the food chain from Manafort) may be turning whatever queen's evidence is in the US that Donny goes on the deflectionary attack. Doh!
      The Flynn thing is all about Fethullah Gülen, which is a thread of it's own. You will hear more about this later, but he is a major player along with the arrested Saudi's.

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      • Re: The Donald Trump thread

        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
        The Flynn thing is all about Fethullah Gülen, which is a thread of it's own. You will hear more about this later, but he is a major player along with the arrested Saudi's.
        I guess if you spread your sins widely enough then it provides sufficient ammunition to allow screws to be applied to both your thumbs. Just the kind of upstanding guy a sensible President would propose as first choice as a National Security Adviser I suppose!

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        • Re: The Donald Trump thread

          Donny shows his Presidential gravitas at a ceremony to honour Navaho war veterans by referencing his pejorative nickname for a Democrat senator.

          "I just want to thank you because you are very, very special people. You were here long before any of us were here," Trump said. "Although, we have a representative in Congress who has been here a long time ... longer than you -- they call her Pocahontas!"

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          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

            Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
            Donny shows his Presidential gravitas at a ceremony to honour Navaho war veterans by referencing his pejorative nickname for a Democrat senator.

            "I just want to thank you because you are very, very special people. You were here long before any of us were here," Trump said. "Although, we have a representative in Congress who has been here a long time ... longer than you -- they call her Pocahontas!"

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            • Re: The Donald Trump thread

              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
              Donny shows his Presidential gravitas at a ceremony to honour Navaho war veterans by referencing his pejorative nickname for a Democrat senator.
              You may not like his methods but they are effective. The whole world now knows that said senior senator misrepresented (some say lied) her Cherokee ansestory in order to obtain a place with funding at Harvard that was reserved for minorities. She also used this bogus "fact" to further her political career. So are you going to shoot the messenger or listen to the message? Personally speaking, I don't think Trump cares about what people like you think, as long as he is cleaning up Washinton DC. He wants to be judged on the end result and not how he got there.

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              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                You may not like his methods but they are effective. The whole world now knows that said senior senator misrepresented (some say lied) her Cherokee ansestory in order to obtain a place with funding at Harvard that was reserved for minorities. She also used this bogus "fact" to further her political career. So are you going to shoot the messenger or listen to the message? Personally speaking, I don't think Trump cares about what people like you think, as long as he is cleaning up Washinton DC. He wants to be judged on the end result and not how he got there.
                He could have just tweeted it.

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                • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                  Originally posted by lardy View Post
                  He could have just tweeted it.
                  He has since last year, but he couldn't resist the opportunity to hit a home run.

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                  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                    He has since last year, but he couldn't resist the opportunity to hit a home run.
                    Yes Gluey, maybe it was a calculated attempt to discredit a senator.

                    Or maybe it was just the latest in a litany of insults he's made against Native Americans stretching all the way back to his attempts to run their casinos out of town in the early 90s. It would be the equivalent of Theresa May making a sheepshagger joke at an event for Welsh WWII heroes.

                    Either way, it looks to have backfired on Trump as the world seems to be more interested in his insensitivity rather than a senator very few people would recognise if she was on their doorstep.

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                    • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                      Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                      He has since last year, but he couldn't resist the opportunity to hit a home run.
                      For someone who claims to be neutral (😂😂) I don’t think I’ve ever seen such rampant cheerleading and promotion of a political
                      Leaders agenda.

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                      • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                        Originally posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
                        For someone who claims to be neutral (����) I don’t think I’ve ever seen such rampant cheerleading and promotion of a political
                        Leaders agenda.
                        It's astounding, isn't it? He's been banging the Trump drum for about 18 months and couldn't have made a less convincing case if he tried.

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                        • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                          You may not like his methods but they are effective. The whole world now knows that said senior senator misrepresented (some say lied) her Cherokee ansestory in order to obtain a place with funding at Harvard that was reserved for minorities. She also used this bogus "fact" to further her political career. So are you going to shoot the messenger or listen to the message? Personally speaking, I don't think Trump cares about what people like you think, as long as he is cleaning up Washinton DC. He wants to be judged on the end result and not how he got there.
                          You are absolutely spot on for once when you say I don't like his methods. If the President of the US thinks that a ceremony in the White House to honour Navajo war veterans should be remembered for a cheap semi-racist attack on a Democratic Senator (presumably because she is challenging the legality of one of Trump appointees) then you reinforce those (me included) who believe his behaviour demeans his office and his country. From where I sit there are cleaner and more attractive creatures swimming in the swamp than the one at the other end of the sewage pipe.

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                          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                            Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                            You are absolutely spot on for once when you say I don't like his methods. If the President of the US thinks that a ceremony in the White House to honour Navajo war veterans should be remembered for a cheap semi-racist attack on a Democratic Senator (presumably because she is challenging the legality of one of Trump appointees) then you reinforce those (me included) who believe his behaviour demeans his office and his country. From where I sit there are cleaner and more attractive creatures swimming in the swamp than the one at the other end of the sewage pipe.
                            When Trump said, in his inaugration speech, that he took an oath of allegiance to all Americans, it seems he meant only the white ones. I'm struggling to think of a non-white group that he hasn't gone out of his way to insult this year.

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                            • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                              As a left of center leaning person, I hope that one day we will see some genuine liberal candidates seeking political office, and not those Chicago mobsters who have been in charge of the Democrat Party for over 30 years. Trump is just a means to an end in my book.

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                              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                                Eric Trump, long in a battle with his brother Jr for the title of Stupidest Trump Son, has tweeted about the Pocahontas controversy:

                                "The irony of an ABC reporter (whose parent company Disney has profited nearly half a billion dollars on the movie "Pocahontas") inferring that the name is "offensive" is truly staggering to me."

                                Someone should tell him that Pocahontas was about Pocahontas, hence the name.

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