The Donald Trump thread

[Vimto]

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...robert-mueller

Interesting.
Yep it's the Guardian... etc etc, but the article contains peoples direct quotes and tweets .

[Wales-Bales]

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...robert-mueller

Interesting.
Yep it's the Guardian... etc etc, but the article contains peoples direct quotes and tweets .

The Guardian are on the anti-Trump team. If you've been paying attention, then you will have noticed that this is a very large team. It includes the Democrats, some Republicans, the majority of the media, elements of the FBI and DOJ, and members of the Judiciary, etc.

How Trump is still in the game is a remarkable feat in itself, but what we are now witnessing the the realtime exposé of a corrupt state, yet the majority on here are still rooting for the corruptors. It must be fascinating for the anthropologists who study this kind of thing.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Trump for America, inc. is government related, it is the legal framwork for the transitionional government.

The Allred family dish out large amounts of money from dodgy Democrat doners for political gain.

How on earth can you even compare the two?

Trump for America, how could anyone confuse this for a partisan organisation? To look wider we seem to moving into an interesting phase. The discrediting of the investigation (triggered let's not forget by the Trump appointed Deputy Attorney General) is accelerating which can only mean that the investigation is getting closer to organ grinders rather than the monkeys it has prosecuted so far. Expect more chaff like this before either Trump presses the nuclear button or Mueller gets his prey.

[Wales-Bales]

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Trump for America, how could anyone confuse this for a partisan organisation? To look wider we seem to moving into an interesting phase. The discrediting of the investigation (triggered let's not forget by the Trump appointed Deputy Attorney General) is accelerating which can only mean that the investigation is getting closer to organ grinders rather than the monkeys it has prosecuted so far. Expect more chaff like this before either Trump presses the nuclear button or Mueller gets his prey.

I'm not sure whose side the Deputy Attorney General is on, his wife has now been dragged into it, apparently she was working for Bill Clinton or something along those lines.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I'm not sure whose side the Deputy Attorney General is on, his wife has now been dragged into it, apparently she was working for Bill Clinton or something along those lines.

God... imagine the things she could tell the Justice Department if she wasn't bound by client confidentiality?

[Vimto]

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The Guardian are on the anti-Trump team. If you've been paying attention, then you will have noticed that this is a very large team. It includes the Democrats, some Republicans, the majority of the media, elements of the FBI and DOJ, and members of the Judiciary, etc.

How Trump is still in the game is a remarkable feat in itself, but what we are now witnessing the the realtime exposé of a corrupt state, yet the majority on here are still rooting for the corruptors. It must be fascinating for the anthropologists who study this kind of thing.

Well, I'm not rooting for any corruptor. I'm waiting for some genuine indication of who represents 'truth' in all this. I wonder if we may never know.
But I have the strongest of hunches that Trump is not, will not and does not have what it takes to be the savior / liberator / game-changer. He may be the face (knowingly or not) for whoever might (or might not) be those things - or just as possibly, he is simply just as corrupt, ignorant, narcissistic and clueless as he is depicted. It is alarmingly easy to present that vision ..
He has a dwindling following of like-minded. Listen to them speak. They are not good people - certainly no better than those they accuse.

[Wales-Bales]

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Well, I'm not rooting for any corruptor. I'm waiting for some genuine indication of who represents 'truth' in all this. I wonder if we may never know.
But I have the strongest of hunches that Trump is not, will not and does not have what it takes to be the savior / liberator / game-changer. He may be the face (knowingly or not) for whoever might (or might not) be those things - or just as possibly, he is simply just as corrupt, ignorant, narcissistic and clueless as he is depicted. It is alarmingly easy to present that vision ..
He has a dwindling following of like-minded. Listen to them speak. They are not good people - certainly no better than those they accuse.

The corruptor is dead, long live the corruptor!

[Vimto]

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The corruptor is dead, long live the corruptor!

Yeah .. that too

[Wales-Bales]

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McCabe’s Ties to Russian Crime Figures & His Reported Tampering in Russian FBI Cases, Files

For years James Comey and Robert Mueller, as FBI directors, knew Andrew McCabe maintained problematic contacts with Russian officials including organized crime figures yet did little to investigate the now-FBI deputy director’s relationships even after other agents caught McCabe tampering in Russian-linked cases, FBI sources said.

https://truepundit.com/comey-mueller-ignored-mccabes-ties-to-russian-crime-figures-his-reported-tampering-in-russian-fbi-cases-files/

[Vimto]

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/18/nuclear-weapons-trump-national-security-strategy

Oh Bravo...

[Vimto]

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/18/trump-judge-nominee-matthew-petersen

Where does it stop?

Is this 'draining the swamp'?

Or something sinister, damaging that may take years to reverse.?

[Wales-Bales]

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tthew-petersen

Where does it stop?

Is this 'draining the swamp'?

Or something sinister, damaging that may take years to reverse.?

I'm struggling to keep up now, where will it all end

[cyril evans awaydays]

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tthew-petersen

Where does it stop?

Is this 'draining the swamp'?

Or something sinister, damaging that may take years to reverse.?

The Senator who filleted him, John Kennedy produced a beaut of a quote to finish him off "“Just because you’ve seen My Cousin Vinny doesn’t qualify you to be a federal judge,”.

On your wider point I think that Trump has been really successful in quickly making a range of very-conservative senior judicial appointments. Then again this stuff is swings and roundabouts and whoever is in power (let's call it swampmaster) gets to choose the judiciary with records of similar "political" leanings. In that regard at least Trump is no different to those who preceded him. When it gets to the lower ranks it looks like he has run out of qualified troops though.

[lardy]

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In 10 years time, the Republican tax bill will leave half of Americans worse off and 83% of the benefits will go to the top 1% earners.

Trump, draining that swamp one day at a time.

[Wales-Bales]

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In 10 years time, the Republican tax bill will leave half of Americans worse off and 83% of the benefits will go to the top 1% earners.

Trump, draining that swamp one day at a time.

Doesn't the tax law expire in 10 years time? I'm guessing whoever is in power then will make a new one!