The Donald Trump thread

[JamesWales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Don't ruin the thread, man!

Exactly. How don't people see it is beyond me

[JamesWales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I'm not accusing him of lacking sympathy because of small things like he didn't wish his colleague well after they broke their leg, or didn't send condolences to a neighbour when their dog got hit by a car. I'm saying he lacks it because he has made disparaging and insulting comments about Americans killed in WW2 and Vietnam POWs and bragged about his gains during 9/11, a day with the most Americans killed (not died) since 1862, and that's if you include Confederate soldiers.

You accuse people of being one dimensional and thinking in black and white and completely miss the irony that you're just the same. Every single comment, you have to be contrarian. No matter what, you have to play the "sitting on the fence" persona.

People can make arguments for his policies, I wouldn't have voted for him but I understand why people did. Likewise for Brexit, UKIP, Reform, etc. I can see arguments for giving them a vote, even if I wouldn't myself.

But this, I do not believe he is a sympathetic man and I don't think you do either. You're just entrenched in the "see both sides" mindset that you have to argue back. Despite his family, his peers and his colleagues coming out and saying he lacks compassion/empathy/sympathy, and numerous instances of him lacking it, you'll still argue it. Those were just 6 instances off the top of my head. I'm sure it would be extremely easy to find plenty more comments he's made about victims of hurricanes, floods, wildfires, shootings, assault or the unemployed, homeless and disabled, etc.

And the funny thing is, I have no doubt a huge chunk of his voters see that as a sign of strength and applaud it. I'm sure he himself would be proud to be seen as unsympathetic, but you'll still say he isn't like that. I actually could just about believe he purposely plays it up to appeal to his supporters more. However, I don't think it's an act and I simply think it's his true self.

I'm only contrarian because that's the reality. If someone says Cardiff City are the best team in the world. I'll be contrarian. If someone says we are the worst, I'll be contrarian. If someone says Trump is the greatest politician on earth I'll dispute that. If someone says he is the devil with no redeeming features I will also dispute that.

This idea of things and people beng all good and all bad is daft. More than daft, it's just false. If you find yourself thinking it (and I have in the past) then look for opinions from the other side and I soon come to a more balanced opinion.

The guy is a prick. But the idea he cares not a jot about his base or American people..no, I don't buy that.

[the other bob wilson]

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I'm only contrarian because that's the reality. If someone says Cardiff City are the best team in the world. I'll be contrarian. If someone says we are the worst, I'll be contrarian. If someone says Trump is the greatest politician on earth I'll dispute that. If someone says he is the devil with no redeeming features I will also dispute that.

This idea of things and people beng all good and all bad is daft. More than daft, it's just false. If you find yourself thinking it (and I have in the past) then look for opinions from the other side and I soon come to a more balanced opinion.

The guy is a prick. But the idea he cares not a jot about his base or American people..no, I don't buy that.

So, what’s he done for the ordinary American man and woman?l

[the other bob wilson]

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Exactly. How don't people see it is beyond me

So the Democrats being hopeless excuses all of Trump’s excesses?

[Wales-Bales]

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Has USAID has been funding everyone's favourite propaganda channels all around the world?

[JamesWales]

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So, what’s he done for the ordinary American man and woman?l

You will have to ask them, but they voted him in so there is clearly something there

[JamesWales]

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So the Democrats being hopeless excuses all of Trump’s excesses?

No of course not. But it has created some easy wins for him.

[jon1959]

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Has USAID has been funding everyone's favourite propaganda channels all around the world?

Fox News? Unlikely.

[Wales-Bales]

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Fox News? Unlikely.

I have prior immunity.

[MOZZER2]

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Has USAID has been funding everyone's favourite propaganda channels all around the world?

some people calling this money laundering i,m sure DOGE will get to the bottom of it

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

6,000 journalists and 700 newsrooms received USAID money?

It's a wonder all of them parrot the same news. pic.twitter.com/QEOmcX18kX

— Clayton Morris (@ClaytonMorris) February 6, 2025

[Wales-Bales]

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some people calling this money laundering i,m sure DOGE will get to the bottom of it

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

6,000 journalists and 700 newsrooms received USAID money?

It's a wonder all of them parrot the same news. pic.twitter.com/QEOmcX18kX
— Clayton Morris (@ClaytonMorris) February 6, 2025

They also received the narrative alongside the money, while Lardy & Cyril remained totally oblivious

[the other bob wilson]

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You will have to ask them, but they voted him in so there is clearly something there

In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.

[jon1959]

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About time we got back to discussing money laundering in the Donald Trump thread. Cheers, Mozzer.

Now to join the dots: Florida real estate deals. Inflated values. Russian oligarchs. Cash injection for failing Trump businesses. Totally legal or a swamp of fraud and corruption? Hmmmm….

[Wales-Bales]

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In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.

I've never seen so many fascists in one room!

[the other bob wilson]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I've never seen so many fascists in one room!

And if that’s the best you can come up with, you can’t think of anything either.