The Donald Trump thread

[stevo]

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There was a 300 strong march for Palestine in Sheffield today - one of the regular local events. The 'hands off' message was there.

There were a lot of Americans in London today on the Hands Off demonstration in Trafalgar Square - and in Frankfurt, Paris and other European cities.

No idea how many took part in the 1200+ US demonstrations - but hopefully this is the beginning of something that grows.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...0843b305e4badc

The photos outside the Capitol building today suggests more protesters turned up there today than Trump followers did for the inauguration

[Wales-Bales]

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The photos outside the Capitol building today suggests more protesters turned up there today than Trump followers did for the inauguration

Meanwhile over in France they are really serious about screwing up the European economy.

https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/ce-que-dit-macron-je-n-en-ai-rien-a-cirer-ces-grands-patrons-francais-ulceres-par-l-appel-a-cesser-d-investir-aux-etats-unis-20250404

[stevo]

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And the Empire Strikes Back!!!

Meanwhile over in France they are really serious about screwing up the European economy.

https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...-unis-20250404

If only Le Pen could run in the next election eh?

[Wales-Bales]

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If only Le Pen could run in the next election eh?

It's not who runs, it's what they are going to do that matters.

[MOZZER2]

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Elon Musk is one of the major drivers for globalisation - if not the single most important one.

Social media information and disinformation may be more important than the exchange of goods/services in the maintenance of a global society, culture, economy and set of dominant ideas.

Trump and Musk are not the Rebel Alliance - they are the Empire!

it appears Starmer and co have conceded the end of globalisation is upon us

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-trump-tariffs-uk-trade-war-b2728228.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg10yjp7meo

[Wales-Bales]

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it appears Starmer and co have conceded the end of globalisation is upon us

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-trump-tariffs-uk-trade-war-b2728228.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg10yjp7meo

Somebody better tell Red Ed before he switches off all the electricity generators

[Wales-Bales]

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it appears Starmer and co have conceded the end of globalisation is upon us

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-trump-tariffs-uk-trade-war-b2728228.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg10yjp7meo

[jon1959]

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Why else would you fire a honest and forthright leader who followed the law and put national security first?

it appears Starmer and co have conceded the end of globalisation is upon us

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-trump-tariffs-uk-trade-war-b2728228.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg10yjp7meo

If Starmer and Co say the sun is shining I will take an umbrella!

(Their definition of globalism is nonsense - a narrow, partial and outdated focus on protectionism v a particular model of so-called ‘free trade’. Free for the global north but much less so for the south.)

[Wales-Bales]

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If Starmer and Co say the sun is shining I will take an umbrella!

(Their definition of globalism is nonsense - a narrow, partial and outdated focus on protectionism v a particular model of so-called ‘free trade’. Free for the global north but much less so for the south.)

Sir Keir Starmer will declare the end of globalisation and admit it has failed the public. Sir Keir said “the world as we knew it has gone”.

Is anybody on here still in favour of globalism?

[goats]

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If Trump lasts the 4 years, will all this “great stuff” he’s doing be undone in 4 years by the Democrats anyway?

[Wales-Bales]

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If Trump lasts the 4 years, will all this “great stuff” he’s doing be undone in 4 years by the Democrats anyway?

Not if it works!

[goats]

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Not if it works!

Might work in mid west banjo zone, but not sure the power houses of New York and California will be too happy

[stevo]

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Not if it works!

How will we know if it works? We're 9 years on and people are still undecided whether Brexit was a success or not.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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This is a screed posted on Facebook by an American friend of a friend. I don't understand all the terminology but Trump's actions are obviously causing distress across the board on the US:

“Tough times these. Unlike most younger people I retired 17 years ago from a company that had a pension plan; at least they did have a pension plan. They just announced that they have sold the plan and its assets & obligations to two insurance companies. Now It's up to the insurance companies to maintain the payment of pensions to retirees (that's me!). When the company operated the pension plan we retirees were protected by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation. The PBGC is a US government agency established to protect the pensions of participants and beneficiaries in private sector defined benefit (DB) plans, ensuring that retirees receive their promised benefits even if the plan fails. But now that the company has divested themselves of their plan obligations the PBGC no longer guarantees those payments. Tough tittie retirees; suck it up. Trump and Musk and DOGE will probably kill the PBGC anyhow if they haven't done it already.

Well I also had a 401-k which I rolled over into an IRA. Last week wasn't kind to my IRA. As some of the signs protestors were carrying last week said my 401-k is now more like a 201-k! And as the shock of Trump's Tariff shenanigans sink in I don't think next week is gonna be any better. Not much comfort to be found there.

But there's always Social Security isn't there? Except Elon Musk seems to have a hard-on for Social Security as DOGE has laid off 7,000 - 10,000 social security employees and closed 47-48 Social Security offices. Plus his "Big Balls" crew has been monkeying with the legacy software platform that SS runs on causing their web site to crash multiple times last week. The software is written in COBOL a computer language so ancient that I took a class in COBOL programming back in the 60's. And all the folks who know COBOL are now gone having been fired or pushed out by the DOGE kids. One knowledgeable economist has said that so much damage has been done to the SS system that it may crash sometime in the next 90 days and may no longer be able to send out checks to 73,000,000 Americans. It appears that this is what Trump wants so that he and his Oligarchs can "privatize" (a code word for steal) the $2.8 trillion in the SS Trust fund. Never let a good crisis go to waste is his motto.

So like a good citizen I did what I was told - I built my retirement on a 3-legged stool concept of pension, savings, and social security/medicare. But whoever came up with that plan never envisioned a remorseless predatory beast like Trump who just may wreck all three.”

[Wales-Bales]

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It's possible that Trump is part of the great reset and he has fooled everybody.