The Donald Trump thread

[jon1959]

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Wow, incredible stuff if true, that's 200 more than Biden.

Wow indeed. What an imaginative use of the words ‘trade’ and ‘deal’!

[Wales-Bales]

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Wow indeed. What an imaginative use of the words ‘trade’ and ‘deal’!

He'll be arresting judges next!

[jon1959]

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He'll be arresting judges next!

Surely not. He’ll probably get his private police force (FBI) to do it for him, then make a series of prattish comments about the whole incident (and the judge) on his private social media platform. Welcome to the new normal!

[MOZZER2]

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He'll be arresting judges next!

will be appealed i would have thought !

[Heathblue]

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He'll be arresting judges next!

The meltdown on X over this is pure entertainment 🤣🤣🤣

Ladies and gentlemen
The storm is upon us
"Q"

[stevo]

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The meltdown on X over this is pure entertainment ������

Ladies and gentlemen
The storm is upon us
"Q"

By storm, you mean dictatorship presumably?

[Heathblue]

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By storm, you mean dictatorship presumably?

I was thinking more accountability and justice Stevo 👍

[the other bob wilson]

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I was thinking more accountability and justice Stevo ��

Accountability? When has Trump made himself accountable for anything?

[the other bob wilson]

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More four dimensional chess from the great man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5d13e4r2rt

[Dorcus]

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More four dimensional chess from the great man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5d13e4r2rt

Great news! Carney is more than a match for the Dumb Cluck

[JamesWales]

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This is the chicken coming home to roost from one of Trump's first big errors.

Most people would view it as a huge opportunity when your neighbour has a big election a few months after you are elected and with the party you are most aligned with (in this case the Canadian Conservative Party) absolutely storming the polls, as they were.

Trump went too far in making an enemy of Canada. The talk of Fentanyl is one thing, but he kept on with the preposterous 51st state stuff which even if not serious is plainly going to rile people.

The very unpopular Justin Trudeau leaving massively helped too but the turnaround in the polls from 3-4 months ago is incredible.

The irony of Mark Carney talking about the importance of independence and sovereignty when he absolutely did not stress that after Brexit should definitely not be lost on us either. I predict he too will be pretty unpopular fairly quickly.

[Eric Cartman]

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This is the chicken coming home to roost from one of Trump's first big errors.

Most people would view it as a huge opportunity when your neighbour has a big election a few months after you are elected and with the party you are most aligned with (in this case the Canadian Conservative Party) absolutely storming the polls, as they were.

Trump went too far in making an enemy of Canada. The talk of Fentanyl is one thing, but he kept on with the preposterous 51st state stuff which even if not serious is plainly going to rile people.

The very unpopular Justin Trudeau leaving massively helped too but the turnaround in the polls from 3-4 months ago is incredible.

The irony of Mark Carney talking about the importance of independence and sovereignty when he absolutely did not stress that after Brexit should definitely not be lost on us either. I predict he too will be pretty unpopular fairly quickly.

I had James making a false comparison with Brexit on my bingo card, what do I win? Carney talking sovereignty and independence in the face of lunatics armed to the teeth threatening to annex your country is a bit different to our pathetic victim act around having to follow EU regs which we designed. There are actually a lot of parallels between the way we bleated during Brexit and what trump is doing now, the pathetic whiney victim side of the political right tends to appear as soon as there is anything difficult to deal with.

But in the spirit of trying to be nice as well, I agree with the rest of your post lol

[JamesWales]

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I had James making a false comparison with Brexit on my bingo card, what do I win? Carney talking sovereignty and independence in the face of lunatics armed to the teeth threatening to annex your country is a bit different to our pathetic victim act around having to follow EU regs which we designed. There are actually a lot of parallels between the way we bleated during Brexit and what trump is doing now, the pathetic whiney victim side of the political right tends to appear as soon as there is anything difficult to deal with.

But in the spirit of trying to be nice as well, I agree with the rest of your post lol

The fact you had to use emotive and false language like "bleating" and "lunatics" demonstrates you know you are on thin ground, and was very much on my bingo card! How on earth is the UK trying to enact a referendum result we voted for in anyway comparable to anything Trump has said about Canada? Ridiculous. It's polar opposites.

US says be the 51st state to have universal tariff free trade...bad thing. Sovereignty is important!

UK votes for something similar and it's awful and full of danger!

If you can't see the irony and inconsistency, that's up to you! As I say, Carneys statements and tone are very different to when he was governor of the bank of England.

And that's fine. That's politics for you, but don't deny it.

[Eric Cartman]

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The fact you had to use emotive and false language like "bleating" and "lunatics" demonstrates you know you are on thin ground, and was very much on my bingo card! How on earth is the UK trying to enact a referendum result we voted for in anyway comparable to anything Trump has said about Canada? Ridiculous. It's polar opposites.

US says be the 51st state to have universal tariff free trade...bad thing. Sovereignty is important!

UK votes for something similar and it's awful and full of danger!

If you can't see the irony and inconsistency, that's up to you! As I say, Carneys statements and tone are very different to when he was governor of the bank of England.

And that's fine. That's politics for you, but don't deny it.

It's weird how his tone would be different when doing two completely different jobs isn't it, his reach/responsibility is completely different.

But to the crux of the issue, Britain choosing to not be part of the EU (however misguided that looks in the current climate) is very different to Trump trying to strongarm Canada into being part of the USA.

I don't think you are so butthurt about Carney not thinking Brexit was/is a good idea (let's not forget, his role as governor of the bank of England was to ensure economic stability....!), you aren't seeing your own hypocrisy. Let's summarise:

- Britain votes to leave the EU
- Carney as head of the BOE (in charge of ensuring economic stability) publicly doesn't think it's a good idea because, guess what, it would cause economic instability
- Britain leaves and economic instability ensues.

Vs

- Trump nukes trade agreement and says he will use 'economic force' to get Canada to become part of the USA
- Canadians overwhelmingly don't want to join the USA
- Carney in his role as prime minister of Canada reflects the views of it's citizens and strongly opposes trumps language and sentiment

That's not hypocrisy, that's horses for courses. In one role he is accountable for economic stability, in another he is supposed to represent his citizens.

Canadians don't want to be part of the USA and Trump won't shut up about it, and in the context of his threats of annexation and invasions around Greenland and Panama, I would be surprised if any leader/future leader of canada wasn't leaning hard into '**** off trump' territory.

First they intervened in Germany and halted the momentum the afd were creating, now they have completely nuked the conservatives in Canada, hopefully Reform are next.

As for emotive language:

Lunatic - crazy, dangerous - yep I am comfortable that these terms apply to the current republican party and leadership of the USA based on the first 100 days of trumps second term

Bleating - weak, querulous or foolish complaint. Also comfortable that this applies the the current administration, 'everyone is taking advantage of America' and applies on the right of our political spectrum around Brexit, which started as 'we hold all the cards' to 'the EU are punishing us'.

So no, I am pretty comfortable with the language.