Belarus/Poland situation

[Gofer Blue]

Pretty scary listening to Gen. Nick Carter on the Andrew Marr programme yesterday when he said that of course we would support our NATO allies in Poland in the event of a threat from Russia. Echoes of 1939 I thought, just a different adversary this time. With all that's going on - COVID and climate change - who in their right minds would want to provoke another war in Europe? Insanity.

[JamesWales]

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Pretty scary listening to Gen. Nick Carter on the Andrew Marr programme yesterday when he said that of course we would support our NATO allies in Poland in the event of a threat from Russia. Echoes of 1939 I thought, just a different adversary this time. With all that's going on - COVID and climate change - who in their right minds would want to provoke another war in Europe? Insanity.

It's a bloody mess. Russia / Belarus unquestionably using migrants as a political tool, but that is the case in many cases.

The EU should accept the (fairly low numbers) people currently on the border, and the means to stop them getting to Belarus, which are wholly political, should be stopped too. I think Turkey has stopped flights to Belarus in recent days.

It's a tinderbox and Russia is fighting for geopolitical power.

Belarus, incidentally is the present day country that proportionately lost more people in WW2 than any other.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Belarus/Poland situation

Pretty scary listening to Gen. Nick Carter on the Andrew Marr programme yesterday when he said that of course we would support our NATO allies in Poland in the event of a threat from Russia. Echoes of 1939 I thought, just a different adversary this time. With all that's going on - COVID and climate change - who in their right minds would want to provoke another war in Europe? Insanity.

think russia & ukraine might

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59288181

[life on mars]

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And how many terrorist are embedded in those immigrants that may slay the innocent 🤔

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Belarus/Poland situation

Pretty scary listening to Gen. Nick Carter on the Andrew Marr programme yesterday when he said that of course we would support our NATO allies in Poland in the event of a threat from Russia. Echoes of 1939 I thought, just a different adversary this time. With all that's going on - COVID and climate change - who in their right minds would want to provoke another war in Europe? Insanity.

Russia seeks to influence and/or take control of the former USSR satellite states, of course.

[JamesWales]

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Russia seeks to influence and/or take control of the former USSR satellite states, of course.

Absolutely. Ukraine, Belarus, and to a lesser extent the Baltic and Balkan states are all susceptible to Russian attention based on the USSR's sphere of influence. They don't want to lose them to the west.

[life on mars]

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Absolutely. Ukraine, Belarus, and to a lesser extent the Baltic and Balkan states are all susceptible to Russian attention based on the USSR's sphere of influence. They don't want to lose them to the west.

Not forgetting thier growing influence in Africa.

Any vulnerable state where they can create instability is a target for them and China .

[Gofer Blue]

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think russia & ukraine might

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59288181

The world has gone mad surely. On top of the climate change problem and a viral pandemic problem now this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59503762

A nuclear war might just do the job actually - reduce the human population at a stroke (human activity is responsible for climate change) and solve both problems simultaneously. There might be a rather large surge in CO2 emissions initially of course!

[life on mars]

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The world has gone mad surely. On top of the climate change problem and a viral pandemic problem now this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59503762

A nuclear war might just do the job actually - reduce the human population at a stroke (human activity is responsible for climate change) and solve both problems simultaneously. There might be a rather large surge in CO2 emissions initially of course!

Will it intrupt the football season ?? 🤔

[Gofer Blue]

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Will it intrupt the football season ?? 🤔

Well put it this way, we wouldn't need to worry about possible relegation for City anymore.

[JamesWales]

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It's a mess and a worry but I do think it's sabre-rattling and countries trying to exert their influence in a post-covid world. Everything has been thrown up in the air and the cards may not land in the same place they were pre-covid.

I think Russia is still trying to find it's 'raison d'etre' in a post communist world too and as the world decarbonises we need them less and less.

[life on mars]

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Ooooh when it suits old Europe they get all edgy about migration , pity they didn't listen to Camerons plea about migration and free movement before Brexit descended upon us .

Appogies below is a cut and past from the evil Times

"" European Union has been accused of “dehumanising” refugees after suspending asylum rules to allow the detention and speedy deportation of irregular migrants at Poland, Latvia and Lithuania’s border with Belarus.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Belarus/Poland situation

It's a mess and a worry but I do think it's sabre-rattling and countries trying to exert their influence in a post-covid world. Everything has been thrown up in the air and the cards may not land in the same place they were pre-covid.

I think Russia is still trying to find it's 'raison d'etre' in a post communist world too and as the world decarbonises we need them less and less.

Russia's raison d'etre is to keep the oligarchs in power.

[life on mars]

Re: Belarus/Poland situation

It's a mess and a worry but I do think it's sabre-rattling and countries trying to exert their influence in a post-covid world. Everything has been thrown up in the air and the cards may not land in the same place they were pre-covid.

I think Russia is still trying to find it's 'raison d'etre' in a post communist world too and as the world decarbonises we need them less and less.

They got eyes on Africa , they love to cozy up to areas of vulnerabilities and instability .

I expect to see a bare chested Putin to appear as Tarzan anytime soon in Africa , with Liz Truss pointing her tank at him ?

[MOZZER2]

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The world has gone mad surely. On top of the climate change problem and a viral pandemic problem now this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59503762

A nuclear war might just do the job actually - reduce the human population at a stroke (human activity is responsible for climate change) and solve both problems simultaneously. There might be a rather large surge in CO2 emissions initially of course!

looks like russia means business

https://tass.com/politics/1390505

russia could invade ukraine at any moment . over to you sleepy joe !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60048395?pinned_post_locator=urn:bbc:cps:curie:asset:f5f5bdcc-43b5-4525-bcce-bdfffb376e24&pinned_post_asset_id=60048395&pinned_post_type=share