Revised HS2 Is the government right or wrong?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Revised HS2 Is the government right or wrong?

The headline isn't great, but it'll pass. HS2 has always been both controversial but also a long way in the future. This will bring forward more benefits to more communities and quicker.

I've never supported HS2 personally, so I think it's better to spread the benefits out more and improve more routes etc.

😂

You dopey sod

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I can't see this playing out well for the government, they made a big fuss about the "northern powerhouse". This is an open goal for Labour surely?

Watch the idiots miss

Completely incompetent opposition

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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HS2 cancelled from Brum to Manchester..

What a surprise

What a bunch of jokers at the conference , clapping like dull seals , hoping the public don't notice

[the other bob wilson]

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Watch the idiots miss

Completely incompetent opposition

They’re waiting to see what the focus groups say.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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They’re waiting to see what the focus groups say.

The opposition needs a Blair......without his lies ....to sweep in

It's painful to watch

[Rjk]

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The opposition needs a Blair......without his lies ....to sweep in

It's painful to watch

the latest polling are predicting a bloodbath for the Tories in the next election. practically wiped out in Wales. as things should be

[The Bloop]

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They should have started building HS1,2,3 /northern powerhouse thingy in the North as that's where the investment was needed most. Instead the government have looked after themselves and the South, by concentrating on the London to Birmingham line then scrapping the rest.
They wanted to level up,but have just increased the gap instead.

[JamesWales]

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I've never supported HS2. I honestly think it should have been scrapped years ago. London to Birmingham brings some benefits but I think the nature of train travel has changed. The necessity is less than it was and with wifi etc it is not the 'downtime' it was.

I think spending it on a far greater number of more local projects is a much better idea tbh. Cardiff to Manchester is shit. Cardiff to Bristol doesn't run late enough. Liverpool to Manchester is poor, Manchester to Sheffield dreadful, intra-city services in places like Bristol are dreadful.

I think a lot more can be achieved by spending it elsewhere on more projects. At the end of the day, funding is finite, and spending so much on one project of dubious value, starving other schemes of funding as a result was never a good use of resources in my opinion

The challenge now is to bake these projects in, get them funding allocated and start them moving as projects as soon as possible.

[superfeathers]

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The challenge now is to bake these projects in, get them funding allocated and start them moving as projects as soon as possible.

Therein lies the problem. The promises of spending on other projects today are the sugar coating of a shit show finally being shelved, which will go the same way as the 40 hospitals, no doubt.

[Wozza16]

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this is such a scandal, we should be all up in arms about this. 5bn of infrastructure spending would be very significant for Wales

Exactly. People are up in arms to the tune of 500,000 signatures because they have to drive 10mph slower and that it cost 30m to put in place.

England has shafted Wales out of 5 BILLION! That’s an insane amount of money. Linking north Wales and south Wales via Carmarthen and Aberystwyth would cost around 800m leaving 4.2BN left to spend. You could electrify almost the entire Welsh network with that type of money.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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the latest polling are predicting a bloodbath for the Tories in the next election. practically wiped out in Wales. as things should be

I certainly hope so

What's the most reliable data ?

Some of the smaller pollsters are all over the shop

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Revised HS2 Is the government right or wrong?

They should have started building HS1,2,3 /northern powerhouse thingy in the North as that's where the investment was needed most. Instead the government have looked after themselves and the South, by concentrating on the London to Birmingham line then scrapping the rest.
They wanted to level up,but have just increased the gap instead.

Well if the clarts in the northern seats who voted tory stick with them then that's their choice but they can't complain

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Revised HS2 Is the government right or wrong?

I've never supported HS2. I honestly think it should have been scrapped years ago. London to Birmingham brings some benefits but I think the nature of train travel has changed. The necessity is less than it was and with wifi etc it is not the 'downtime' it was.

I think spending it on a far greater number of more local projects is a much better idea tbh. Cardiff to Manchester is shit. Cardiff to Bristol doesn't run late enough. Liverpool to Manchester is poor, Manchester to Sheffield dreadful, intra-city services in places like Bristol are dreadful.

I think a lot more can be achieved by spending it elsewhere on more projects. At the end of the day, funding is finite, and spending so much on one project of dubious value, starving other schemes of funding as a result was never a good use of resources in my opinion

The challenge now is to bake these projects in, get them funding allocated and start them moving as projects as soon as possible.

Are you shagging rishi ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Therein lies the problem. The promises of spending on other projects today are the sugar coating of a shit show finally being shelved, which will go the same way as the 40 hospitals, no doubt.

More police , more hospitals , more trains !

Thump fists

Clap at conference

Lie

Start again

[superfeathers]

Re: Revised HS2 Is the government right or wrong?

More police , more hospitals , more trains !

Thump fists

Clap at conference

Lie

Start again

Wheeling his mrs out to say he's great was a bit special
A billionaire popping in unannounced to tell everyone how hard her husband is working, while so many are on the breadline.
Unnecessary.