Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

Sorry don't agree. They are a source of corruption and hubris. Who on Earth needs recognition for doing good? It's reward enough in itself.

No probs, but I don't mean it's good to receive the accolade but that it's good to give them as a sign of recognition. And this only for the general public. You make a fair point about knighthoods being used as favours etc but they'd lose that kind of value if you knock the daft titles out of the equation.

[life on mars]

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Don't think the Queen was or is a fan of old Tony , hence the 14 year wait , sounds like it was an award that had to be given in end with a sigh 😕.

Sir Keir had nowhere to turn when asked, and has shown a liking for some of Blair's Tory lite type politics ,which won't appeal to the grassroots of his party ?

Wonder what Corbyn and his supportors think , and do next 🤔

[life on mars]

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I know folk hate the mail but this is worth a read :

Tony Blair's Defence Secretary says he was told to BURN memo https://mol.im/a/10369343 via https://dailym.ai/android

[the other bob wilson]

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Don't think the Queen was or is a fan of old Tony , hence the 14 year wait , sounds like it was an award that had to be given in end with a sigh ��.

Sir Keir had nowhere to turn when asked, and has shown a liking for some of Blair's Tory lite type politics ,which won't appeal to the grassroots of his party ?

Wonder what Corbyn and his supportors think , and do next ��

All pure speculation.

[poc]

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It will be Sir Boris Johnson a decade from now.
The Honours System is an archaic waste of time.

it is a joke :xmasthumbup:

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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A good example of why we need to scrap the entire honours system apart from for "ordinary" members of the public who've done great things for charity etc.
No former PMs or other MPs, civil servants, party donors, businessmen and women, sportspeople, actors or musicians.

I know someone who works for the BBC World Service and, putting aside the incredble funds raised as a result, was rather begrudging of the media attention that the pensioner, 'Sir Tom', was given courtesy of his very media-savvy and wealthy daughter. And the McCann's, a media-savvy couple seemed to have more attention focussed on the loss of their daughter than perhaps a run-of-the-mill working class couple. Such situations muddy the waters as to who exactly are 'ordinary people'.

[BLUETIT]

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Am I right in thinking, olde Tony’s Mrs, was involved in taking our troops to court for alleged “War crimes” !

[Rjk]

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of course kier starmer would think that.

:shrug:

[JamesWales]

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I've mixed feelings on Tony Blair. The Iraq war of course completely muddies the water on what was otherwise a pretty successful period for him as Prime Minister.

To be elected three times is no mean feat, and governing for ten years means he has had a hugely significant role in the life of the country and it's people.

I don't think being a controversial figure should bar someone from being knighted tbh. We don't really want to live in such an anodyne world do we? By definition, nearly all figures will be controversial or have some enemies.

I'm okay with it. But more than anything, does it matter that much? I'm not opposed to the honours system, but I don't pay great attention to it either.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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I know someone who works for the BBC World Service and, putting aside the incredble funds raised as a result, was rather begrudging of the media attention that the pensioner, 'Sir Tom', was given courtesy of his very media-savvy and wealthy daughter. And the McCann's, a media-savvy couple seemed to have more attention focussed on the loss of their daughter than perhaps a run-of-the-mill working class couple. Such situations muddy the waters as to who exactly are 'ordinary people'.

That's a fair point.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I know folk hate the mail but this is worth a read :

Tony Blair's Defence Secretary says he was told to BURN memo https://mol.im/a/10369343 via https://dailym.ai/android

10 x more read than the Guardian.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

I know someone who works for the BBC World Service and, putting aside the incredble funds raised as a result, was rather begrudging of the media attention that the pensioner, 'Sir Tom', was given courtesy of his very media-savvy and wealthy daughter. And the McCann's, a media-savvy couple seemed to have more attention focussed on the loss of their daughter than perhaps a run-of-the-mill working class couple. Such situations muddy the waters as to who exactly are 'ordinary people'.

I think the McCann's are pretty 'ordinary' people..

[delmbox]

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10 x more read than the Guardian.

Yeah but they still don't like it. :sherlock:

https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/media/popularity/newspaper/all

[OurManFlint II]

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Am I right in thinking, olde Tony’s Mrs, was involved in taking our troops to court for alleged “War crimes” !

Not sure of her involvement but nothing alleged about it, they were guilty of war crimes but no charges. Also guilty of inadequacies in the original investigation by the military plod.

[OurManFlint II]

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10 x more read than the Guardian.

why do you lie and just make up numbers?