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  • #46
    Re: Taking the piss.

    Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Whilst I have some sympathy with that view politically it is far less important to me than ridding the country of this cancerous Prime Minister as soon as possible.
    Quite, but the bigger prize is getting this horrendous government out of power.

    However, in the interim, I'm also concerned the new Tory PM might want to change the Downing Street decor again. It's unlikely he or she will want to tap up Tory donors again so it'll be poor dumb Johnny Taxpayer who will have to find £50k just for a whim.

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    • #47
      Re: Taking the piss.

      So I've defended Johnson thus far broadly speaking for three reasons;

      1 / I think the only viable alternative in 2019 would have been for worse all things considered

      2 / I think there was a degree of sour grapes and hysteria over some of the original claims. Hatchet job stuff

      3 / I actually like that he has a more liberal approach and seems to want to get us out of this..

      But...

      The latest scandal is fkn disgusting. The sheer brass neck of his secretary to send that email at the very height of the first lockdown is outrageous. The only suitable response from Johnson was to have responded at the time and firmly say that such a gathering must not take place. I don't see how he gets away with it now. If there's proof he was there and enjoying the party he's toast. The red waller's will demand it and so will party doners and anyone else who wants them to be electable.

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      • #48
        Re: Taking the piss.

        I'm planning to set up a "keep Bodger as PM" petition.

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        • #49
          Re: Taking the piss.

          Johnson gives a “heartfelt” apology at PMQs after admitting attending the bring a bottle Party on 20 May 2020 - he’s just keeps repeating that we should wait for the outcome of the inquiry.

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          • #50
            Re: Taking the piss.

            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            So I've defended Johnson thus far broadly speaking for three reasons;

            1 / I think the only viable alternative in 2019 would have been for worse all things considered

            2 / I think there was a degree of sour grapes and hysteria over some of the original claims. Hatchet job stuff

            3 / I actually like that he has a more liberal approach and seems to want to get us out of this..

            But...

            The latest scandal is fkn disgusting. The sheer brass neck of his secretary to send that email at the very height of the first lockdown is outrageous. The only suitable response from Johnson was to have responded at the time and firmly say that such a gathering must not take place. I don't see how he gets away with it now. If there's proof he was there and enjoying the party he's toast. The red waller's will demand it and so will party doners and anyone else who wants them to be electable.
            Poor old Boris, let down by his secretary.

            Even at this stage, even after concluding that he should resign, you still manage to slip in a dig at Corbyn and still trying to point out Johnson is alright really. Bit embarrassing to post that. Unless it was your secretary that did it.

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            • #51
              Re: Taking the piss.

              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              Johnson gives a “heartfelt” apology at PMQs after admitting attending the bring a bottle Party on 20 May 2020 - he’s just keeps repeating that we should wait for the outcome of the inquiry.
              We can be sure there's no possible way he can lie, deny and mislead his way out of it when he finally makes an admission and an apology.

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              • #52
                Re: Taking the piss.

                Hes looks and sounds like a buffon everytime he speaks.

                Its probably the most idiotic performance ive ever seen.

                Question of how stupid he thinks the public is with the he didnt know it was a party , the garden is extension of the office sh!t is another matter.

                Hes banking on the stupidity as thats how this lot treat the public. He will try and ride this out. The option of going now and in disgrace will not be what this appalling govt will want to be shown in history especially after the shame of the Health Secretary.

                He will ride this out and go before the election.

                I couldnt even get angry it really was actually very funny on how stupid he looked and sound.

                Straight out of Little Britain.

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                • #53
                  Re: Taking the piss.

                  " The sheer brass neck of his secretary to send that email at the very height of the first lockdown is outrageous"


                  Wow

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                  • #54
                    Re: Taking the piss.

                    Originally posted by lardy View Post
                    " The sheer brass neck of his secretary to send that email at the very height of the first lockdown is outrageous"


                    Wow
                    I'm a bit confused, perhaps I need to be a bit more nuanced but was it Johnsons secretary who attended the event on his behalf, swigging a bottle of Chablis and singing the theme tune to Peppa Pig or Johnson?

                    If it's Johnson? Obviously it's the secretary's fault he attended as everyone knows Johnson has never read fully any email of briefing papers he's ever been given.

                    She should be sacked.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Taking the piss.

                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      And your point is? You said there would have been risk assessments carried out, you're only guessing that and, frankly, with this Government under this Prime Minister, I would not be the least bit surprised if there wasn't. Even if there was, it was still a flagrant breaking of the rules which cannot be fobbed off this time as a work meeting - you need to cast your mind back to what it was like in May 2020, bring a bottle parties were not allowed if I remember rightly.

                      My point is this, If those with misgivings about the party had gone to the press then many of the emergency lockdown mandates which were voted in by all political parties would have been invalid.

                      This would have had an impact on compliance, at the time. I wonder how many of the public were fined doing the same things ?

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                      • #56
                        Re: Taking the piss.

                        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                        My point is this, If those with misgivings about the party had gone to the press then many of the emergency lockdown mandates which were voted in by all political parties would have been invalid.

                        This would have had an impact on compliance, at the time. I wonder how many of the public were fined doing the same things ?
                        There is a different perspective. Two days after this party the allegations about Dominic Cummings and Barnard Castle hit the press. Johnson and the Tory Party rallied around him, we had that ridiculous press conference in the very same Downing St gardens that the parties took place where he said he was testing his eyesight and Cummings survived when many thought that not possible. The result was the hitherto strong levels of lockdown compliance weakened when people saw someone of power applying different rules.

                        I suspect that the reason Johnson and his cronies rallied around Cummings was because they feared if he was let go details of the parties would soon emerge and do for a few of them.

                        I would presume Cummings and his associates are in "Revenge is a dish best served cold" for his ultimate departure at the alleged behest of Johnson's wife. Who knows what else will filter out if this one doesn't finish him off!

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                        • #57
                          Re: Taking the piss.

                          Originally posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
                          Poor old Boris, let down by his secretary.

                          Even at this stage, even after concluding that he should resign, you still manage to slip in a dig at Corbyn and still trying to point out Johnson is alright really. Bit embarrassing to post that. Unless it was your secretary that did it.
                          Oh I'm sorry, you aren't happy unless someone downloads your own thoughts and then replicates them?

                          Some people like understanding people's thought processes, others don't.

                          That's upto you if you aren't interested I suppose.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Taking the piss.

                            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                            Johnson gives a “heartfelt” apology at PMQs after admitting attending the bring a bottle Party on 20 May 2020 - he’s just keeps repeating that we should wait for the outcome of the inquiry.
                            If the Tory MP's have any sense they will be getting out their Parker's or Shaeffers,undoing their bottle of dark blue Quink and penning their letters to the chairman of the 1922 committee.

                            I presume these days most people know the implication of Tory Mp's writing to the 1922 committee?

                            If one gets sent written with a quill pen, Boris has really had it 'cos that will be from Jacob Rees Mogg

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                            • #59
                              Re: Taking the piss.

                              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                              Oh I'm sorry, you aren't happy unless someone downloads your own thoughts and then replicates them?

                              Some people like understanding people's thought processes, others don't.

                              That's upto you if you aren't interested I suppose.
                              tbf your intimation that Johnson's Principal Private Secretary was showing a brass neck for sending the e-mail invitation (of his own back) for an event that Johnson subsequently racked up to does leave you open to this type of ridicule. It's almost like sending e-mails on behalf of the person who you are Principal Private Secretary to is part of your job description!

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                              • #60
                                Re: Taking the piss.

                                Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                                If the Tory MP's have any sense they will be getting out their Parker's or Shaeffers,undoing their bottle of dark blue Quink and penning their letters to the chairman of the 1922 committee.

                                I presume these days most people know the implication of Tory Mp's writing to the 1922 committee?

                                If one gets sent written with a quill pen, Boris has really had it 'cos that will be from Jacob Rees Mogg


                                Surely he has a calligrapher who does that sort of stuff for him?

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