Scapegoats today: Migrants and the BBC

[ninian opinian]

Re: Scapegoats today: Migrants and the BBC

I think, as is often the case, there is a bit of hysteria here.

The Royal Navy being involved in a crisis at sea, involving refugees, migrants and people smugglers is not an unusual or wrong state of affairs. It's what they do. I think you do the navy a disservice if you think they are only capable of firing missiles at people. A huge amount of their work is humanitarian.

On the BBC..I'm a big supporter of it. I think it's funding model is archaic but it is good value for money. I also think some of the accusations of bias are fair and something the BBC itself recognising it needs to address. The news website in particular stands out for me, in terms of the news agenda and what they decide to make as the main stories (which is often different to the six o clock TV news btw).

Talk of nazis, as ever, is way overblown.

Talk of nazis is in no way overblown. I’m not saying anyone on here has views like a nazi however the constant dehumanising of refugees by the right wing media, contributors such as Farage and this Tory cabinet are very troubling.

[JamesWales]

Re: Scapegoats today: Migrants and the BBC

Talk of nazis is in no way overblown. I’m not saying anyone on here has views like a nazi however the constant dehumanising of refugees by the right wing media, contributors such as Farage and this Tory cabinet are very troubling.

As someone who has read extensively about the rise of the nazis and European history post WW1, I assure you that the UK reconsidering how to fund it's main public service broadcaster and the navy becoming involved in the rescue of migrants at sea is in no way comparable to the crimes or policies the German National Socialist Workers party engaged in.

Seriously, sometimes we all need reality checks and to row things back a bit and this is one of them.

[life on mars]

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Nazis ???????????? how offensive to those who were persecuted and their relatives , who truly suffered at the hands of those evil people, how anyone right minded can relate those actions with what is happening now really does haver a distorted view of life .

Guess it gets a reaction though .

So far we have stayed away for the holocaust comparison which was was the genocide of European Jews .

Maybe its a new socialist in vogue thing to compare right wing governments to severe atrocities of the past ??

[Dorcus]

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Nazis ???????????? how offensive to those who were persecuted and their relatives , who truly suffered at the hands of those evil people, how anyone right minded can relate those actions with what is happening now really does haver a distorted view of life .

Guess it gets a reaction though .

So far we have stayed away for the holocaust comparison which was was the genocide of European Jews .

Maybe its a new socialist in vogue thing to compare right wing governments to severe atrocities of the past ??

You still haven't told us the long story as to why your hatred of socialists. Unrequited love maybe?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Patel wants to use sonic booms now to deter migrants. Dehumanising human beings is how the Nazis started.

That's incorrect.

[ninian opinian]

Re: Scapegoats today: Migrants and the BBC

Nazis ???????????? how offensive to those who were persecuted and their relatives , who truly suffered at the hands of those evil people, how anyone right minded can relate those actions with what is happening now really does haver a distorted view of life .

Guess it gets a reaction though .

So far we have stayed away for the holocaust comparison which was was the genocide of European Jews .

Maybe its a new socialist in vogue thing to compare right wing governments to severe atrocities of the past ??

You saying migrants and their families are not being persecuted. Wake up.

[ninian opinian]

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That's incorrect.

Nazi propaganda likened the Jews to rats, but also portrayed them as ‘poisoners of culture’. If that’s not dehumanising, I don’t know what is.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Nazi propaganda likened the Jews to rats, but also portrayed them as ‘poisoners of culture’. If that’s not dehumanising, I don’t know what is.

It's not how the Nazis started though, which was what you posted.

[JamesWales]

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You saying migrants and their families are not being persecuted. Wake up.

Are they being persecuted? Surely more wouldn't come if that were the case? Are they not being saved at sea by a British Institution and then looked after by the British state whilst their cases are processed?

When sub-standard accommodation was reported, the site was closed. Most now housed in hotels that prior to this people would holiday in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56418361

I'm not saying it's the land of milk and honey at all, and I wish all genuine applicants the best, but I think you are mistaking people expressing a desire to solve this problem for persecution.

I am all ears for genuine examples of widespread persecution, but I'm not sure it exists, and certainly it is in no way comparable to the nazis victims - top clue here being that migrants are desperate to enter Britain. Jews were desperate to leave Germany.

[the other bob wilson]

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Isn’t the point that the Tories with their childish and ludicrous operations red pie, big meat, pork dog or whatever they’re called, just emphasing the old faithfuls of BBC and immigrant bashing that they know will go down well with their base support, as well as doing away with Covid restrictions, as a means of trying to divert attention away from their leader’s predicament?