voter id

[life on mars]

Re: voter id

All this I'd nonsense doesn't stop folk giving up their details for : free by pass , benefit, vaccine , NHS registration, old age Pension claim , winter fuel claims, topping up gas / electricity payment cards , ordering on amazon ,credit cards spends , house rents mobile phone ,TV subscriptions. Ffs

What's to hide ?

[JamesWales]

Re: voter id

Free ID would be a small step to answering the main concerns - but just a small one.

On your second point, the only person I remember advocating a second Brexit vote solely on the grounds that he wanted a second go was Nigel Farage - on the night of the referendum when he thought his side had lost. All other calls for a second referendum were on the basis that the first one was a blind vote on the principle; a second vote would be on the detailed 'offer'. I didn't (and don't) support a second referendum, but I do like a bit of honesty in how the case is presented.

Basically you're putting up calls for more democracy as a counter argument to prospective moves that would suppress votes in an election (or referendum). Given that I will take all your comments with more than a pinch of salt!

I have to say, I am sympathetic to your position, as I dont support compulsory ID, I oppose things like a cashless society, CCTV everywhere, covid passes etc. I am in essence a libertarian.

However, I also object to rather extreme reactions to things. This is something that is the absolute norm in many parts of the world where the things being stated simply don't happen. If anything, turnout is higher and people are more engaged.

I also know, from working at elections which I do, that there are no checks whatsoever. IF someone knew someone wasnt voting there is nothing to stop them going to vote on their behalf. We simply have no idea to what extent this happens as its impossible to assess.

As a first step, I think its reasonable at least to trial this and see what the impact is. At the very least the debate should be done with less hysteria because the net result of that is to create paranoia within certain communities that the government hates them - something which perhaps has consequences when certain communities in turn are less likely to trust the government on vaccines etc.

I just think turn the dial down a bit - the stuff you posted before from the campaign group against this is perfecrly reasonable stuff, but some of the far-left rhetoric is just ridiculous and not based on any democratic concerns, but all about stirring the race pot for their own benefit.

ya know, it just isnt the case that the big bad government are trying to steal your vote. Thats extreme conspiracy theory stuff.