20 MPH Cardiff Road Scheme Goes Live

[life on mars]

Re: 20 MPH Cardiff Road Scheme Goes Live

Most of North Cardiff been down to 15mph for a while, how the hell were going to enjoy the extra 5mph is beyond me ?

[BLUETIT]

Re: 20 MPH Cardiff Road Scheme Goes Live

Tour de France winners average just above 20mph. You can rest easy knowing cyclists won’t be affected by these rules as they won’t be hitting 20mph cycling to work

A bit more than 20mph

25-28 mph
Average Speed on Flat Ground: 25-28 mph
For many pro athletes racing in the Tour de France, being able to maintain a fast speed on flat terrain allows them to simply stay competitive with the other athletes.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Car drivers don’t pay road tax either

They pay vehicle tax. It's semantics.

[Canton Kev]

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A bit more than 20mph

25-28 mph
Average Speed on Flat Ground: 25-28 mph
For many pro athletes racing in the Tour de France, being able to maintain a fast speed on flat terrain allows them to simply stay competitive with the other athletes.

How many Tour de France grade cyclists do you encounter commuting to work?

[dembethewarrior]

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Does it say that a singular cyclist has to ride in the gutter on the side of the road?

You are just looking for an argument.

[Fatty Foggon]

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I was riding my moped down Newport Rd in the 70s and had the throttle flat out when a cyclist overtook me. Never lived it down.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: 20 MPH Cardiff Road Scheme Goes Live

Try reading it

You can just post the answer here.

You're arguing with me now as someone who is anti bike. I ride myself and when alone I stick as close to the kerb as possible without hindering myself or my ability to cycle.

[delmbox]

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How many Tour de France grade cyclists do you encounter commuting to work?

The lengths some people will go to to justify a moan is what makes this site great

[dembethewarrior]

Re: 20 MPH Cardiff Road Scheme Goes Live

The lengths some people will go to to justify a moan is what makes this site great

[splott parker]

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I can reach 20mph on my bike, looking forward to the speed I hit once I take the stabilisers off

[BLUETIT]

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How many Tour de France grade cyclists do you encounter commuting to work?

I don’t, as I’ve retired

[RichardM]

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You can just post the answer here.

You're arguing with me now as someone who is anti bike. I ride myself and when alone I stick as close to the kerb as possible without hindering myself or my ability to cycle.

I'm not arguing with anyone. I was suggesting that if you want to know the rules for cyclists you shout read them.

Rule 66
You should

be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders. Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so

Rule 72
Road positioning. When riding on the roads, there are two basic road positions you should adopt, depending on the situation.

1) Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations

on quiet roads or streets – if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely
in slower-moving traffic - when the traffic around you starts to flow more freely, move over to the left if you can do so safely so that faster vehicles behind you can overtake
at the approach to junctions or road narrowings where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you
2) When riding on busy roads, with vehicles moving faster than you, allow them to overtake where it is safe to do so whilst keeping at least 0.5 metres away, and further where it is safer, from the kerb edge. Remember that traffic on most dual carriageways moves quickly. Take extra care crossing slip roads.

[dembethewarrior]

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I'm not arguing with anyone. I was suggesting that if you want to know the rules for cyclists you shout read them.

Rule 66
You should

be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders. Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so

Rule 72
Road positioning. When riding on the roads, there are two basic road positions you should adopt, depending on the situation.

1) Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations

on quiet roads or streets – if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely
in slower-moving traffic - when the traffic around you starts to flow more freely, move over to the left if you can do so safely so that faster vehicles behind you can overtake
at the approach to junctions or road narrowings where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you
2) When riding on busy roads, with vehicles moving faster than you, allow them to overtake where it is safe to do so whilst keeping at least 0.5 metres away, and further where it is safer, from the kerb edge. Remember that traffic on most dual carriageways moves quickly. Take extra care crossing slip roads.

On a bright and clear day, with traffic coming in both directions and 478 cars piled up behind you because you are in the centre of your lane, visible to all, should you then move in closer to allow vehicles to pass or stay there letting the congestion build up behind you?

Isn't bright clothing for visibility?

[Heathblue]

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I've not seen any of this about!!.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angry-drivers-in-wales-are-tying-red-ribbons-to-their-cars-as-act-of-protest/ar-AA1f0O3P?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8283aaf2432a4b6e92a9a3ace304581f&ei=32

[pipster]

Re: 20 MPH Cardiff Road Scheme Goes Live

Effects those in Llandaff North,Whitchurch,Tongwnlias, Rhiwbina and Heath.

Goes live March 22.

The idiot deliveroo type cyclists round by us in Canton must be doing well over 20, I doubt the Plod will bother trying to stop them