What's going on in Shanghai?

[Organ Morgan.]

It appears true that 25 million people in Shanghai, which is eight times the entire Wales population, are effectively under house arrest and unable to leave their homes for any reason... not for food, work, to collect medication or attend hospital or dental appointments. For many it has been like that for 23 days and 12 days for all residents.

China leading citizens to jump from balconies in quest to achieve ‘COVID Zero’ https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/how-ch...ve-covid-zero/

Shanghai Lockdown Exposes China’s Covid Lies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og7JyP96mX4

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1513045981243318275?

[TWGL1]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

It appears true that 25 million people in Shanghai, which is eight times the entire Wales population, are effectively under house arrest and unable to leave their homes for any reason... not for food, work, to collect medication or attend hospital or dental appointments. For many it has been like that for 23 days and 12 days for all residents.

China leading citizens to jump from balconies in quest to achieve ‘COVID Zero’ https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/how-ch...ve-covid-zero/

Shanghai Lockdown Exposes China’s Covid Lies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og7JyP96mX4

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...5981243318275?

Just seen a very disturbing video of cats being but in bags en mass ready for being slaughtered, just because their owners have tested positive for Covid …. Unreal

[Wales-Bales]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

I wonder if Professor Neil Ferguson will be updating his recommendations for the next lockdown?

[JamesWales]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

One of the most shameful elements of the entire Covid story is how utterly inept the western media has been in reporting on and challenging China on many aspects of the Covid situation. It is unbelievable how in thrall of China we are. Russia is one thing, but it's China the west is better off weening ourselves off from.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

An extreme reaction, but here’s another one from the Health Secretary on Twitter;-

“Proud that the UK has led the world in learning to live with Covid. Freedom, with responsibility, should always be the default.”.

One person’s “freedom” is another’s washing of hands of responsibility. We’re still seeing around a thousand people dying each week with Covid in the UK - I don’t think anyone in this country wants what’s being seen in China, but there’s a huge middle ground that our Government, including the Welsh one, could be occupying and they’re not.

[TWGL1]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

An extreme reaction, but here’s another one from the Health Secretary on Twitter;-

“Proud that the UK has led the world in learning to live with Covid. Freedom, with responsibility, should always be the default.”.

One person’s “freedom” is another’s washing of hands of responsibility. We’re still seeing around a thousand people dying each week with Covid in the UK - I don’t think anyone in this country wants what’s being seen in China, but there’s a huge middle ground that our Government, including the Welsh one, could be occupying and they’re not.

China has some of the strictest and harsh lockdown policies in the World ….. doesn’t appear to have a made a difference ?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

China has some of the strictest and harsh lockdown policies in the World ….. doesn’t appear to have a made a difference ?

The problem with Chinese Covid figures is whether to believe them or not. A death rate per million of three seems too low to stop people being cynical, but is it really as high as ours of 2,499? Somehow, I doubt it.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Anyway, I said what China is doing is extreme, but I say the same about us, with UK Government policy driven more by political and ideological reasoning than scientific advice.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Weren't you once convinced that Covid was released by the Chinese as a weapon against the West? Apologies if my memory has deceived me.

[JamesWales]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

Weren't you once convinced that Covid was released by the Chinese as a weapon against the West? Apologies if my memory has deceived me.

He believes it was cooked up in the kitchen of No 10 now with Cummings and Murdoch and a bunson burner and then distributed around the UK via the privatised Royal Mail and injected into babies by Johnson himself and Bupa employees. The rest is history.

[TWGL1]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

Weren't you once convinced that Covid was released by the Chinese as a weapon against the West? Apologies if my memory has deceived me.

Convinced , no,, but have a look at CDC documents for reference.

These days I just keep an open mind. The general public will be the last to know anyway.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

Convinced , no,, but have a look at CDC documents for reference.

These days I just keep an open mind. The general public will be the last to know anyway.

Yep, hard to tell with so many US sponsored bio labs dotted around the world.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

Convinced , no,, but have a look at CDC documents for reference.

These days I just keep an open mind. The general public will be the last to know anyway.

Apologies, I should have made it clear that I was asking the OP.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

Apologies, I should have made it clear that I was asking the OP.

Here you go TBG. The Sage that is Organ Morgan in earlier plumage:

Speculation is rife that the virus restrictions are being used as cover to arrest and disappear every person the Chinese Communist Party view as a threat. It's also being surmised as an opportunity to cull swathes of its aged population who cost a fortune to maintain via health care and pension payments.

Could any government be so evil as to release a new type of mild flu to then exaggerate its danger inside its borders while simultaneously downplaying its danger for the rest of the world purely to kill those citizens it doesn't want live any longer?

[TWGL1]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

Here you go TBG. The Sage that is Organ Morgan in earlier plumage:

Speculation is rife that the virus restrictions are being used as cover to arrest and disappear every person the Chinese Communist Party view as a threat. It's also being surmised as an opportunity to cull swathes of its aged population who cost a fortune to maintain via health care and pension payments.

Could any government be so evil as to release a new type of mild flu to then exaggerate its danger inside its borders while simultaneously downplaying its danger for the rest of the world purely to kill those citizens it doesn't want live any longer?

have a look at CDC information on this and some of Anthony Fauci’s interviews.

I found this linkage for you as I know that’s your preference

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10313053/Covid-19-UK-Wuhan-lab-leak-likely-origin-Covid-MPs-told.html

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: What's going on in Shanghai?

have a look at CDC information on this and some of Anthony Fauci’s interviews.

I found this linkage for you as I know that’s your preference

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-MPs-told.html

Thank you but I am not sure what this has to do with TBG's point.

Organ Morgan very early on in the pandemic/plandemic (delete as appropriate) made the startling observation that the Chinese government was trying to cull millions of its elderly, whilst also then as now imposing the strictest lockdown conditions in the world presumably designed to achieve the complete opposite.

I think your points are that the virus is man-made but also no worse than the common cold so why all the fuss, which is a completely different set of jumbled arguments.