BreakTheLaw Boris

[the other bob wilson]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

If they were that a risk to public health, surely the public protection officers and health officials and advisors would have said so ?

In theory, the top table of government could have died by having this gathering…….. hmmmmmm

I thought they did.

[Rjk]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

This is not a defence of Boris Johnston but he is not a convicted liar.

A fine is not a conviction. As I undertand it he will only be guilty of a criminal offence if he appeals against the fine but is found guilty by the magistrates court.

It still doesn't look good though.

On the other hand, he has been sacked from 2 previous jobs for lying so...

[TWGL1]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

It is double standards though, my wife’s employers issued Covid guidelines and anybody flouting the rules could be sacked.

[sneggyblubird]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

I've a feeling Sunak will resign which will force Boris to do the same. Like they are saying on the tele the silence is deafening from the Cabinate at the moment. I Think his position is untenable. Theresa May's former aid has already said he should go and I dare say John Major won't be far behind with his own verbal lashing. Some minor Tories are trying the "now is not the time" excuse but just like Nixon the question most people are asking is "Would you buy a used car off this man "You can't do business with a liar.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

On the other hand, he has been sacked from 2 previous jobs for lying so...

Granted, but it doesn't alter the fact that he is not a convicted liar

[the other bob wilson]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

This is not a defence of Boris Johnston but he is not a convicted liar.

A fine is not a conviction. As I undertand it he will only be guilty of a criminal offence if he appeals against the fine but is found guilty by the magistrates court.

It still doesn't look good though.

Fair enough, but we’re talking about semantics. He’s been found guilty of breaking a law he and his Government instigated and then misleading Parliament about it - the notion that any other Prime Minister of the modern era would have not resigned under such circumstances is laughable.

[TWGL1]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

If you sack him for lying , and apply the same rules to every M.P we would lose half of the M.P’s in office

[Dave Blue]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

All this he was only having a sausage roll stuff is pathetic. People were separated at funerals or saw their dying relatives through windows. These guys hold the country in such contempt they are not prepared to follow the rules they set and are so entitled they didn't feel they needed to or set an example.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

Fair enough, but we’re talking about semantics. He’s been found guilty of breaking a law he and his Government instigated and then misleading Parliament about it - the notion that any other Prime Minister of the modern era would have not resigned under such circumstances is laughable.

I was going to use the word semantics but It is not really I don't think.The meaning of the word conviction is clear and a fine is by no definition included.

I agree though with the fact that he misled parliament.

If he does stay (and I suspect he will) then he and the conservative party will have to face the judgement of the electorate in two years time, which could well be damning, so the reckoning will only be delayed.

[Hilts]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

All this he was only having a sausage roll stuff is pathetic. People were separated at funerals or saw their dying relatives through windows. These guys hold the country in such contempt they are not prepared to follow the rules they set and are so entitled they didn't feel they needed to or set an example.

Thats it really.

Michael Fabricant on TV now. WTF. Who votes these people in.😂😂😂

Fecks sake.

[Rjk]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

If you sack him for lying , and apply the same rules to every M.P we would lose half of the M.P’s in office

um... this isn't some new rule they've just thought up to have a go at Boris Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misleading_of_parliament

[Hilts]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

Sh!t Fabricant is a complete tw@t. He knows exhausted nurses who went back to the staff room after a shift and had a drink. Was this a party??

[TWGL1]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

um... this isn't some new rule they've just thought up to have a go at Boris Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misleading_of_parliament

Why didn’t they sack Blair then ?

[Rjk]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

Why didn’t they sack Blair then ?

because he was never found to have mislead parliament.

[jon1959]

Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

If you sack him for lying , and apply the same rules to every M.P we would lose half of the M.P’s in office

Is there a problem with that?

Anyway, the charge isn't Johnson and Sunak lying. Johnson lies every day - he can't help himself. He's done it all his life. He has total contempt for the truth as displayed in all his previous jobs and this one. The problem is 'deliberately attempting to mislead the House'.

Those are really bad lies. Under the ministerial code the Prime Minister should sack him..... Oh hang on!