Fifty more Downing St. fines.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

Meanwhile, the medical 'guru' who promulgated strict lockdown policies and hectored the government and the public non-stop for two years got away scot free after his lockdown-breaking shagging visits demonstrated the ultimate hypocrisy.

I'm no fan of BJ, but some of those lockdown rules were absolute ludicrous, and more fool the public for slavishly following them to the letter.

You can treat the UKs death toll in relation to lockdowns in two ways. First, you could look at 180,000 deaths when I can remember predictions of 20,000 dead when the pandemic started and say that lockdowns were clearly a waste of time, but I tend to favour the view that asks if 180,000 have died with lockdowns, how many more would have without them?

[TWGL1]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1529444111593492480?s=21&t=YOOciUE7BWGUJVNCwrnc3Q

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

You can treat the UKs death toll in relation to lockdowns in two ways. First, you could look at 180,000 deaths when I can remember predictions of 20,000 dead when the pandemic started and say that lockdowns were clearly a waste of time, but I tend to favour the view that asks if 180,000 have died with lockdowns, how many more would have without them?

I was in Llandaff Fields walking [within 5 linear miles of my home] with my wife. We bumped into a friend and stood yards apart. A van marked 'HM Coastguard' came down the path, stopped, and bawled out instructions to 'disperse immediately' through a megaphone. A couple forced by hospital staff to watch their 13yr old son die [not COVID[ as they watched behind a screen wearing hazmat suits. People afraid to visit a dying relative in case they're accused of law-breaking by the tens of thousands of do-good snoopers ready to shout 'it's the law !!!'. These examples can be multiplied 1000's of times over the last 2 yrs, yet I doubt anyone was put in any extra danger if they had been ignored. I cut the top of my finger a year ago and had to go to A&E. I was the only 1 there. Last week I took someone to the A&E - there must have been 70 - some had been there for 2 nights. People who had serious conditions the last 2.5yrs have been virtually written off. Of course there had to be guidance in place for the vulnerable, but the negative effects of 'lockdowns' will be felt for years by many.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

If you mean Neil Ferguson - he resigned from his government role for undermining the lockdown rules, which is what people are wanting Boris Johnson to do.

Saying that he got off "scot free" is incorrect.

He remained with SAGE, and he was still on the TV [BBC] what seemed like every effing day.

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

He remained with SAGE, and he was still on the TV [BBC] what seemed like every effing day.

Boris Johnson would still be an MP and could be on TV [GB News] every effing day if he resigned.

He should still resign though - just as Neil Ferguson did.

[JamesWales]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

Boris Johnson would still be an MP and could be on TV [GB News] every effing day if he resigned.

He should still resign though - just as Neil Ferguson did.

He should have resigned, this is true. But he won't now and it does seem that the worst of partygate is behind him now

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1530155028878614530?s=20&t=nj5ig0fvkSgU5hy-eW1JxQ

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...kSgU5hy-eW1JxQ

Starmer though.

[TWGL1]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

I was in Llandaff Fields walking [within 5 linear miles of my home] with my wife. We bumped into a friend and stood yards apart. A van marked 'HM Coastguard' came down the path, stopped, and bawled out instructions to 'disperse immediately' through a megaphone. A couple forced by hospital staff to watch their 13yr old son die [not COVID[ as they watched behind a screen wearing hazmat suits. People afraid to visit a dying relative in case they're accused of law-breaking by the tens of thousands of do-good snoopers ready to shout 'it's the law !!!'. These examples can be multiplied 1000's of times over the last 2 yrs, yet I doubt anyone was put in any extra danger if they had been ignored. I cut the top of my finger a year ago and had to go to A&E. I was the only 1 there. Last week I took someone to the A&E - there must have been 70 - some had been there for 2 nights. People who had serious conditions the last 2.5yrs have been virtually written off. Of course there had to be guidance in place for the vulnerable, but the negative effects of 'lockdowns' will be felt for years by many.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

I was in Llandaff Fields walking [within 5 linear miles of my home] with my wife. We bumped into a friend and stood yards apart. A van marked 'HM Coastguard' came down the path, stopped, and bawled out instructions to 'disperse immediately' through a megaphone. A couple forced by hospital staff to watch their 13yr old son die [not COVID[ as they watched behind a screen wearing hazmat suits. People afraid to visit a dying relative in case they're accused of law-breaking by the tens of thousands of do-good snoopers ready to shout 'it's the law !!!'. These examples can be multiplied 1000's of times over the last 2 yrs, yet I doubt anyone was put in any extra danger if they had been ignored. I cut the top of my finger a year ago and had to go to A&E. I was the only 1 there. Last week I took someone to the A&E - there must have been 70 - some had been there for 2 nights. People who had serious conditions the last 2.5yrs have been virtually written off. Of course there had to be guidance in place for the vulnerable, but the negative effects of 'lockdowns' will be felt for years by many.

As Will the negative effects of 180,000 deaths. You can say that you doubt if anyone would have been put in any extra danger if the rules had been ignored - 180,000 died with a population that overwhelmingly obeyed the rules which it’s become fashionable to write off as madness by libertarians (people who only think of themselves) these days, but what I doubt is if the figure would have been that low (!!!) if the population at large behaved like many of those in 10 Downing Street did.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

I was going to say unbelievable, but, given who’s behind it, highly predictable is more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/27/boris-johnson-changes-ministerial-code-to-remove-need-to-resign-over-breaches

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

I was going to say unbelievable, but, given who’s behind it, highly predictable is more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-over-breaches

Find it depressing that this has not had a single reaction on here overnight - this speech gets more relevant by the week.

https://www.stylist.co.uk/news/mhairi-black-speech-fascism/662382

[TWGL1]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

I was going to say unbelievable, but, given who’s behind it, highly predictable is more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-over-breaches

Looks like the democratic process we thought we had is slowly being eroded is t it. What do you think of the WHO treaty has recently been signed ?

Changes are happening quickly.

[TWGL1]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

I see Claudia Webb is still an M.P despite her criminal conviction and still earning £84k (plus expenses)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-61591802

https://twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1530282711297966081?s=21&t=uhduoWYoBrMG7p76Gp6pCg

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

Looks like the democratic process we thought we had is slowly being eroded is t it. What do you think of the WHO treaty has recently been signed ?

Changes are happening quickly.

Don’t know much about and aren’t really interested in the WHO proposals that have got the right so agitated, but I’ve just read up on it and found this

https://www.newswise.com/coronavirus/who-proposals-imperfect-but-won-t-violate-u-s-sovereignty/?article_id=771721