For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

[lardy]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

Is it really that much of a false equivalence comparing those that believe That Trump had the election stolen and Remainers who for years denied the legitimacy of the Brexit Vote?

I'm not saying the referendum was illegitimate here, but I would say that a major difference is that there were a lot of investigations, recounts and court cases regarding the US election in the space of a few weeks. The argument was simply that Biden hadn't had more votes. I don't think anyone* has said that the vote counting was wrong.


*fao xsnaggle, don't take 'anyone' completely literally. It may have been mentioned by some loon as far as I know.

[jon1959]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

Is it really that much of a false equivalence comparing those that believe That Trump had the election stolen and Remainers who for years denied the legitimacy of the Brexit Vote?

Totally false equivalence.

No one has disputed the EU Referendum vote in the UK. Very few people have challenged its legitimacy.

A lot of people on both sides of the argument have claimed the other lot were dishonest with their claims.

A lot of people on the Remain side, whilst accepting the result, made the argument that the devil will be in the detail and the people should have an opportunity to decide if they like the detail that finally emerged.

[xsnaggle]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

Totally false equivalence.

No one has disputed the EU Referendum vote in the UK. Very few people have challenged its legitimacy.

A lot of people on both sides of the argument have claimed the other lot were dishonest with their claims.

A lot of people on the Remain side, whilst accepting the result, made the argument that the devil will be in the detail and the people should have an opportunity to decide if they like the detail that finally emerged.

But they only made that argument because they lost!

[Heisenberg]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

But they only made that argument because they lost!

It would be a strange argument to make if they had won

[lardy]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

But they only made that argument because they lost!

Rees-Mogg also made that argument before the referendum.

[xsnaggle]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

Rees-Mogg also made that argument before the referendum.

But his side didn't lose.

It's done. It's time foks got over it ad stopped baging on about. Better chanel their energies to making it work.

But of course, as has been said, some people want it to fail and don't care if that damages the country.

[Heisenberg]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

But his side didn't lose.

It's done. It's time foks got over it ad stopped baging on about. Better chanel their energies to making it work.

But of course, as has been said, some people want it to fail and don't care if that damages the country.

"Better chanel their energies to making it work."

How does one do that?

Edit: I missed a great chance for a Coco Chanel joke there

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

But his side didn't lose.

It's done. It's time foks got over it ad stopped baging on about. Better chanel their energies to making it work.

But of course, as has been said, some people want it to fail and don't care if that damages the country.

Is that you, Officer Crabtree?

[lardy]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

But his side didn't lose.

It's done. It's time foks got over it ad stopped baging on about. Better chanel their energies to making it work.

But of course, as has been said, some people want it to fail and don't care if that damages the country.

So maybe the argument is not being made just because they lost, given that someone who won made it beforehand? Maybe that suggests it's sensible.

[xsnaggle]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

So maybe the argument is not being made just because they lost, given that someone who won made it beforehand? Maybe that suggests it's sensible.

The argument is being made now by those who cannot accept that their side lost, just as it is by the people on here, as much as they attempt to dress it up as something else.

[life on mars]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

But his side didn't lose.

It's done. It's time foks got over it ad stopped baging on about. Better chanel their energies to making it work.

But of course, as has been said, some people want it to fail and don't care if that damages the country.

Your last line I think somes it up very well, best not to post any positiveness is maybe the solution ,its like any form of success is a poison ?

[lardy]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

The argument is being made now by those who cannot accept that their side lost, just as it is by the people on here, as much as they attempt to dress it up as something else.

The argument is not being made by the people who eventually won any more because it doesn't suit them. It was being made by them when they didn't think they'd win.

That should be a big clue for you...

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

The argument is not being made by the people who eventually won any more because it doesn't suit them. It was being made by them when they didn't think they'd win.

That should be a big clue for you...

More positive news..........if you are Dutch!

https://www.ft.com/content/3dad4ef3-59e8-437e-8f63-f629a5b7d0aa

[life on mars]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

More positive news..........if you are Dutch!

https://www.ft.com/content/3dad4ef3-...3-f629a5b7d0aa

Its a difficult one as there are voices on both sides of the political and financial argument , some say there has been no real financial benefit of being in Europe since its conception ,some say its hugely regulated , slow moving , and that reduces freedoms outside of Europe , some say other markets like Asia are the new dawn .

Watching the Vaccine roll out one could say independent ( quicker ) decision making helped the UK in its moment of need .

UK may prosper , or fall , no one really knows , all we do know is were a big economy , and someone will want our money and our trade including our valuable service ,security and science /medicine knowledge industries and form partnership / trade deals , and joining the ( CPTPP ) Asia-Pacific free trade bloc ,realigning with Commonwealth countries will be a interesting move .

There is no doubt this is a big leap for teh UK fraught with issues on the way out of the door , it was never claimed to be easy, it was though a democratic decision through many elections and a a ground breaking high turn out referendum .

[jon1959]

Re: For those who voted 'to get Brexit done'

Its a difficult one as there are voices on both sides of the political and financial argument , some say there has been no real financial benefit of being in Europe since its conception ,some say its hugely regulated , slow moving , and that reduces freedoms outside of Europe , some say other markets like Asia are the new dawn .

Is that your best stab at presenting both sides of the political and financial argument?