Chaos in Government

[Rjk]

Re: Chaos in Government

I think this reduces the chances of Labour winning the next election. Much better had Johnson stayed in charge.

Yes, but the tories will have been damaged by this, and "Boris" did have plenty of supporters who seemed to back him rather than the tory party itself, I don't see them getting a big jump in the polls tbh

[North Cardiff Blue]

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So in other words .....you are a feckin tory

Noted

I have previously voted for either side, it's not a football club, every single person votes for the party that will suit their interests best unless they are thick as .... and do what their Dad did.

[Pearcey3]

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No way will starmer overturn an 80 seat majority

He might break it a bit but we need a new party and new leader , starmer is hopeless

Starmer is too dull and corporate. My preference is for Andy Burnham to take over but we are stuck with Starmer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I have previously voted for either side, it's not a football club, every single person votes for the party that will suit their interests best unless they are thick as .... and do what their Dad did.

You speak for yourself , I don't vote for what's in my best interest

[lardy]

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Yes, it's something that more or less every country did, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen and it wasn't right to do it. It was an extraordinary level of support for the private sector.

It's like saying I'm a good dad because I feed my kids.

It's what everyone else does, and if I didn't it would be criminal - but I can claim it as an achievement?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Starmer is too dull and corporate. My preference is for Andy Burnham to take over but we are stuck with Starmer.

I think he's got no charisma and spine

He just seems like he's fresh out from university

[Lither_1927]

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You speak for yourself , I don't vote for what's in my best interest

How would you lose personally by voting Labour?

[Rjk]

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He would have if Boris had remained, chances massively reduced now mind, they can dump it all on Boris and get someone very serious and business like in to be completely opposite.

labours best chance is to beg the Durham police to fine him and replace him as quickly as possible.

No I disagree - I'm no fan of Kier particularly but Labour don't want him to be charged with "having some food" in Durham, as that will allow it to be easily manipulated from "tory sleaze" to "they're all as bad as each other"

Boris was dragging the Tory party down, but also did attract his own supporters through his personality - I#ve heard plenty of them on radio phone ins - not really dyed in the wool tories, but prepared to make excuse after excuse for good old boris, after all he's trying his best etc, I don't see the Tories suddenly leaping back to a huge lead in the polls now they've got rid of him, and there's every chance they'll elect someone pretty woeful to follow, as none of the main candidates are very inspiring.

I also think the damage that has been done to public confidence won't be as easy to win back by changing the man at the top.

[The Lone Gunman]

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being technically correct is the best type of correct

Being technically correct but very obviously wrong is the worst kind of wrong.

[the other bob wilson]

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I'll see who they get and vote for the party that suits my needs best in 2.5 years, but I would bet on it being a conservative win again as they are not up against a Tony Blair!

So, you think twelve years of Tory rule (five of it with the Lib Dems) has been good for the country? Why? Nearly every attempt I’ve seen to answer that question begins with “but what would it have been like with Labour”, but it would be good to see why anyone thinks we’re better off now than we were in April 2010 in the month before the Tories regained power.

[Dorcus]

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How would you lose personally by voting Labour?

I couldn't imagine anyone of any worth losing, only the ones who don't really matter.

[Dorcus]

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My view is that, whether rightly or wrongly, a lot of the public, including Labour supporters, saw Labours policies as being too left wing under Corbyn, and voted accordingly.

We have a strange electorate.

[celticknight]

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My view is that, whether rightly or wrongly, a lot of the public, including Labour supporters, saw Labours policies as being too left wing under Corbyn, and voted accordingly.

In the run up to the election I can remember a taxi driver telling me that despite the fact he wasn't a regular Tory voter and thought Boris was an idiot, the idea of Corbyn in charge was worse and so would vote Conservative to keep him out.

The whole "Corbyn is the bogeyman" shitck by the media worked wonders.

[Feedback]

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Being technically correct but very obviously wrong is the worst kind of wrong.

I'm not sure how being technically correct can be wrong, but here we are.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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In the run up to the election I can remember a taxi driver telling me that despite the fact he wasn't a regular Tory voter and thought Boris was an idiot, the idea of Corbyn in charge was worse and so would vote Conservative to keep him out.

The whole "Corbyn is the bogeyman" shitck by the media worked wonders.

I experienced this too. It was ironic because when people were read/shown a number of key policies from the manifesto, they agreed with them and said they could back them. Then they were told they were Corbyn's and immediately said they wouldn't vote for them.