HS2 - Wales shafted again by London

[Penywaun gentrified]

Scotland and NI will receive substantial rail infrastructure funding in compensation as a result of HS2 benefiting the English economy. However, as transport infrastructure hasn't been devolved to Wales, we won't benefit in kind. The Tories also gave HS2 'national ' status to blatantly avoid triggering compensation to us via the Barnett formula. This is typically cynical as HS2 is blatantly an English project. Accepted that some parts of North Wales will indirectly benefit once passengers get to Crewe, but as a whole, Wales will fall behind further.
The lack of an outcry in the Welsh press and from Welsh tories is deafening, the lack of caring from our Secretary of State is scandalous.

[life on mars]

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Al our funding used to come from Europe .

I guess Boris thinks he may never totally win the hearts and minds of Wales , as he has this time in the Labour heartlands of the Midlands, North West / East of England ?.

[Penywaun gentrified]

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All our funding? I don't think so. European Regional funding was on top of domestic funding from London. It targeted poorer regions to help address the difference in wealth between more and less successful areas. Boris has already stated that money laid aside to try to replace European funding (Shared Prosperity Fund) will be allocated from London and the projects to get funding will be decided upon in London, not Wales.
We are seen as unimportant and undeserving of equal status to NI and Scotland, let alone England.

[Gofer Blue]

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I would say the whole country has been shafted by HS2. The latest cost figure of £100 billion is still only an estimate! Probably will be the greatest white elephant project ever. It will be interesting to see the passenger numbers when it finally gets going and how much a ticket from London to Brum will cost.

[life on mars]

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Didn't realise until a radio comment today the HS2 project goes way back to the 2009 government

[Heathblue]

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Shocking decision IMO, railway needs investment but not in one project.

[Penywaun gentrified]

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I agree with this. But the effects on Wales missing out completely and falling further behind concern me more than the UK as a whole wasting money. The lack of a Welsh perspective is a continual theme that we apparently are prepared to accept from our media and politicians.

[Wozza16]

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Absolutely criminal, all I hope is Plaid can manage to gain some strong support in South Wales and do over Labour next year.

Westminster was supposed to devolve the valley lines to the Welsh Government in 2019 but still hasn't done it? I wonder if they have purposely delayed it knowing HS2 was going to have another budget increase and incase it would mean they would have to give some sort of settlement....? Is there any way of finding out?

[Penywaun gentrified]

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This is the issue - our London based media isn't interested and keeps us compliant. 'Our' media and politicians should be all over this and calling Westminster out.

[Wozza16]

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This is the issue - our London based media isn't interested and keeps us compliant. 'Our' media and politicians should be all over this and calling Westminster out.

That leaves it to the likes of you and I. That's what the Scots have done and they're much better off for it.

This is a starting point https://www.partyof.wales/no_to_hs2

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Christ no not plaid cymru , their ultimate goal is independence

A stronger labour party is what's needed to stand up to westminster , trouble is half the idiots in wales that gets huge funding from europe voted leave and have leaned to the right , quite incredible but true the last thing we need is plaid stealing votes off labour and letting the tories in via the back door ..

Labour in cardiff bay needs to get rid of mark drakeford pronto , hes hopeless

[life on mars]

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Christ no not plaid cymru , their ultimate goal is independence

A stronger labour party is what's needed to stand up to westminster , trouble is half the idiots in wales that gets huge funding from europe voted leave and have leaned to the right , quite incredible but true the last thing we need is plaid stealing votes off labour and letting the tories in via the back door ..

Labour in cardiff bay needs to get rid of mark drakeford pronto , hes hopeless

There is a need to sort out Labour centrally in my view and that's no easy task or happening anytime soon .

[MOZZER2]

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looks like the HS2 Brum to Leeds leg will go ahead according to this by 2040

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57282010

money well spent or not ?

[life on mars]

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looks like the HS2 Brum to Leeds leg will go ahead according to this by 2040

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57282010

money well spent or not ?

Difficult one if he reversed the decision he will be accused of not looking after the North , if he does go ahead its a waste of money.

If it brings opportunity then it works and only time will tell

Welcome to politics.

[MOZZER2]

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Difficult one if he reversed the decision he will be accused of not looking after the North , if he does go ahead its a waste of money.

If it brings opportunity then it works and only time will tell

Welcome to politics.

oh no its not

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59292120