Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Organ Morgan.]

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Those at risk of contracting Covid 19.

Thats everyone isnt it.????

According to Dr Hilary, the bloke on GMTV, 20% of the population never contract whatever virus is knocking around.

PS Have you a question mark fetish?

[Heisenberg]

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Never before have healthy people been quarantined. Try an online dictionary if you're unaware of the definition of the word never is. Those people who feel they are at risk of contracting COVID-19, let them isolate themselves for as long as they please. For everyone else, allow them to choose to venture out and associate with whomever they wish. All previous pandemics were dealt with that way.

Same applies during the UK seasonal flu season (December through March) which kills thousands of Britons prematurely each year.

A question for you. What would be your criteria for returning to what life was? How about deaths associated with COVID-19 falling to nil for perhaps a period of three months? What's your acceptable number of COVID-19 related deaths?

Who the **** is in quarantine, Organ? I can go to work, go shopping, go for some exercise. That's not quarantine, is it? Are you in quarantine or do you have the same options as I do?

[Organ Morgan.]

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Who the **** is in quarantine, Organ? I can go to work, go shopping, go for some exercise. That's not quarantine, is it? Are you in quarantine or do you have the same options as I do?

Sounds like you're a government designated essential worker. I and many others aren't and are restricted to occasional shopping trips and an hour of exercise per day. As I have your attention and knowing you share Eric's enthusiasm for lockdown measures I'll pose the same questions to you as him.

What would be your criteria for returning to what life was? How about deaths associated with COVID-19 falling to nil for perhaps a period of three months? What's your acceptable number of COVID-19 related deaths?

[Heisenberg]

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Sounds like you're a government designated essential worker. I and many others aren't and are restricted to occasional shopping trips and an hour of exercise per day. As I have your attention and knowing you share Eric's enthusiasm for lockdown measures I'll pose the same questions to you as him.

What would be your criteria for returning to what life was? How about deaths associated with COVID-19 falling to nil for perhaps a period of three months? What's your acceptable number of COVID-19 related deaths?

I'm not playing your little game, Organ, as we both know that you have an overly-flexible opinion on how you view the current environment and will willingly move on to the next fallacy as soon as you've been shown up.

The point of my post was that you mentioned quarantine to Eric as a point of absolution for your position against what's happening... yet you have just said that you can go shopping and exercise.

How is that being in quarantine? If you were in quarantine you would be in complete isolation for a period of time with no chance of passing on or contracting a virus/disease.

"Mate, I'm in quaranti..."

"Hold the **** up... Didn't you just spend an hour queuing at Asda for lentils and quinoa, you cock?"

"Yeah, but... Other people are allowed to go to work and after I have a nice walk home in the lovely weather from Asda I have to sit in my garden and moan on CCMB that my civil liberties have been taken away!"

Get a grip.

[Organ Morgan.]

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Great. I answer your query, you ignore mine.

Okay, if it'll make you happy, never before have restrictions we've been subjected to been employed to battle any previous pandemic, and that was because 60% of the population had to become infected for the purpose of herd immunity.

Procrastination will be the method used to keep this social distancing malarkey in situ until the expected second wave in the autumn.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Great. I answer your query, you ignore mine.

Okay, if it'll make you happy, never before have restrictions we've been subjected to been employed to battle any previous pandemic, and that was because 60% of the population had to become infected for the purpose of herd immunity.

Procrastination will be the method used to keep this social distancing malarkey in situ until the expected second wave in the autumn.

I'm guessing that's a response to me. It still doesn't answer the specific question I asked. Once you do, specifically, I'll answer yours.

[delmbox]

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I had no idea the Welsh garden centre lobby had such clout

[lardy]

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According to Dr Hilary, the bloke on GMTV, 20% of the population never contract whatever virus is knocking around.

PS Have you a question mark fetish?

You said at risk of contracting it. He's right, everyone is at risk of contracting it. Whether they actually do is another matter.

[the other bob wilson]

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I'd use the word devastating to describe this, sourced, indictment of the UK's approach to the virus;-

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1258688045559226369

[lardy]

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I'd use the word devastating to describe this, sourced, indictment of the UK's approach to the virus;-

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...88045559226369

Incredible. Thanks Bob.

I still can't believe Cheltenham went ahead and the government were proud of it.

[the other bob wilson]

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I'm just trying to understand the wider point you make. If it helps. I'll start the sentence. There was this nurse from Nevada that posted an emotional You Tube video about her experience working in New York hospitals. It looks really dubious at best and fake at worst so this means the coronavirus problem is (this is the bit that you add)!

That's what I thought, but I suppose it does add that element of conspiracy to things and we know that is so important to some on here.

Although I don't think any of the usual crowd of conspiracy theorists on here are flat earthers, I always go back to that Netflix documentary on the subject two a couple of years ago where they were given the resources to come up with something which would prove conclusively that the earth was flat. They opted for a series of lasers the same distance apart, over a period of hundreds of miles I believe, which would form a straight line when they were all connected. When it did no such thing and, instead, showed a degree of curvature, the experiment was then rubbished as the flat earthers immediately moved on to a new one which they said were really, really prove they were right this time!

The reaction of the conspiracy theorists on here when today's or this weeks story proves to be the usual load of shit is exactly the same as those flat earthers - it's as if it never existed and they move on to the next theory/barmy suggestion which, this time, will prove conclusively they are right and the rest of us mindless sheep who just accept the line we are fed without question.

This is the really funny thing which underscores such a mindset. There is this smug certainty they all have that they are completely right and we are completely wrong, there are no shades of grey - it's so simple if we could only just see it.

Generally speaking, the conspiracy theorists on here have been all over the place when it comes to the virus, Organ especially, and it's impossible for them to have been correct all of the time on the subject because so often they have said different things at different times. However, I've never seen an admission or acceptance from any of them, that they have been wrong.

I come at things from a certain point of view and am very much at the opposite end of the argument to those who think like Organ does, but I am open minded enough to admit that, when you look at places like Sweden and Belarus, there is a legitimate argument to be had about the need for the sort of strict lockdown practiced by other countries - I think there was a need, but I can see why others might think differently.

It's strange that the "independent thinkers" on here seem to have trouble with with that sort of concept - that the other side, could, possibly, be right. By sticking to their unyielding, formulaic viewpoints, come what may, all they're doing is proving they are just as sheeplike as they accuse everyone else of being - if not more so.

[the other bob wilson]

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Britain was led by Churchill then – it’s led by a Churchill tribute act now

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/08/commemorating-ve-day-during-coronavirus-lockdown-somehow-the-quiet-made-it-louder

[Organ Morgan.]

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I'm guessing that's a response to me. It still doesn't answer the specific question I asked. Once you do, specifically, I'll answer yours.

No. It was a response to our resident meth cook. I advocate for people being able to choose to do what they believe is best for themselves minus any interference from the state or its agents. And once more, that was how previous pandemics were met. Those who are fearful for their health might wish to isolate themselves to whatever extent they desire. For any who have little or no support by way of friends/family/neighbours then of course the government ought to provide them with necessary resources. The plain paranoid can sit at home wearing a gas mask while washing their hands umpteen times per day for all I care and they have no business dictating to others.

I get the impression from many hereabouts, including yourself, that the economic impact of lockdown measures will be both minor and temporary and any financial hardships they may suffer will be similarly shallow. I think you and they are in for a rude awakening.

This is the boss of the Royal College of Nursing speaking on April 29th who caused quite a stir with her remarks.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Sounds like you're a government designated essential worker. I and many others aren't and are restricted to occasional shopping trips and an hour of exercise per day. As I have your attention and knowing you share Eric's enthusiasm for lockdown measures I'll pose the same questions to you as him.

What would be your criteria for returning to what life was? How about deaths associated with COVID-19 falling to nil for perhaps a period of three months? What's your acceptable number of COVID-19 related deaths?

Having an effective treatment would be one way of getting out of the lockdown.

This is extremely positive and exciting news. The sheer fact we are at this stage so early in the virus' evolution is incredible.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/06/health/monoclonal-antibody-treatment-covid-19/index.html

The added fact is that a number of companies have independently been working on this treatment. The most optimistic estimates are that this will be available for widespread distribution in the next 3 months.

[lardy]

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I advocate for people being able to choose to do what they believe is best for themselves minus any interference from the state or its agents.

This is the same person who, pretty much every week for as long as I remember on here, has made at least one comment about some section or other of the public being thick.