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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by Rjk View Post
    102 again today for RCT
    Actually it looks as though PHW have put out old data again. They'll probably correct it in an hour or so

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
      There are some hurdles if my understanding is correct. I don't think that the effectiveness is known across all age groups and apparently it has to be stored at something like -70. Correct me if i'm wrong. Although, brilliant news.
      I used to work for Pfizer so well done them. I understand the vaccine needs to be stored at very low temperatures so there may be some logistical issues but there are companies that can handle it, although I doubt you will be able to pop down to the GP for a shot as they usually only have fridges in their surgeries.

      When working with Pfizer we handled several temperature sensitive medicines and many were flown in. All were flagged with temperature indicators which monitored variation whilst being transported. Problems sometimes occurred at airports where pallets were left on the tarmac in the heat, so having been transported across the world they could be at most risk on the tarmac at a UK airport.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by Rjk View Post
        Actually it looks as though PHW have put out old data again. They'll probably correct it in an hour or so
        Back up to 146 in RCT

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by Vindec View Post
          Many down from the Valleys I suspect spreading their germs everywhere. Cardiff's infection rates are likely to rise now the firebreak is over.
          Yep....they haven’t been allowed for 6 weeks is it? No chance I’m going in this week.....

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
            I used to work for Pfizer so well done them. I understand the vaccine needs to be stored at very low temperatures so there may be some logistical issues but there are companies that can handle it, although I doubt you will be able to pop down to the GP for a shot as they usually only have fridges in their surgeries.

            When working with Pfizer we handled several temperature sensitive medicines and many were flown in. All were flagged with temperature indicators which monitored variation whilst being transported. Problems sometimes occurred at airports where pallets were left on the tarmac in the heat, so having been transported across the world they could be at most risk on the tarmac at a UK airport.
            They a UK based company are they? Between them and Oxford you would think we are in a pretty good situ

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              941 new cases in Wales, so up from yesterday, but still about a third down from recent figures.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                I used to work for Pfizer so well done them. I understand the vaccine needs to be stored at very low temperatures so there may be some logistical issues but there are companies that can handle it, although I doubt you will be able to pop down to the GP for a shot as they usually only have fridges in their surgeries.

                When working with Pfizer we handled several temperature sensitive medicines and many were flown in. All were flagged with temperature indicators which monitored variation whilst being transported. Problems sometimes occurred at airports where pallets were left on the tarmac in the heat, so having been transported across the world they could be at most risk on the tarmac at a UK airport.
                I think it said minus 80 in that BBC piece didn't it?

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by goats View Post
                  They a UK based company are they? Between them and Oxford you would think we are in a pretty good situ
                  American company with a big UK manufacturing base. Vaccine plant where I think European supplies will be manufactured is in Belgium.

                  Apparently retired past employees based in South Wales will be first in the queue

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Care home residents and staff and over 80s first is the speculation according to Sky.

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      If there are many from the Valleys in Cardiff today it's probably because they've been abiding by the rules and so are taking advantage of their first opportunity to cross county lines in around six weeks - if they've been obeying the rules then you'd assume they wouldn't have germs to spread.

                      I've typed this assuming you're on the wind up mind.
                      Not a wind up. My impression was that earlier posts indicated the reason why infection rates in the Valleys were so high was because people in the infected areas lived close together and were in and out of each other's houses increasing the possibilities for person to person contact.

                      The basis of your conclusion that people visiting Cardiff have obeyed the rules is somewhat suspect. Just to be clear I wasn't insulting people living in the valleys. It's merely the fact that is an area where infection rates are alarmingly high.

                      Incidentally your book is on its way to me.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                        Not a wind up. My impression was that earlier posts indicated the reason why infection rates in the Valleys were so high was because people in the infected areas lived close together and were in and out of each other's houses increasing the possibilities for person to person contact.

                        The basis of your conclusion that people visiting Cardiff have obeyed the rules is somewhat suspect. Just to be clear I wasn't insulting people living in the valleys. It's merely the fact that is an area where infection rates are alarmingly high.

                        Incidentally your book is on its way to me.
                        Well, if the basis of my conclusion is somewhat suspect, your contentions about the virus being spread today by infected valleyites from areas where infections are alarmingly high descending on Cardiff has to fall into the same category. It's been an education to see some of the comments on here in the last couple of days because you'd think that nearly all of us up here had it, when, as was pointed out earlier, the official figures show that something like 3 per cent have - in fact, when it comes to where I live in particular, there was a diagram on a BBC website page I posted yesterday which showed that those of us living at the top end of the Rhondda valley have a lower infection rate that Gabalfa north I think it was, so it works both ways.

                        Having got that off my chest, thanks for buying the book

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by goats View Post
                          Very busy in Cardiff city centre today my wife tells me....like Christmas Eve!
                          I was in the city centre at lunchtime. Incredible scenes. Genuinely the busiest I've seen it since last Christmas. Long queues outside all of the major shops and some of the less obvious ones too.

                          So, it seems the local lockdowns are over, the national lockdown has finished and the floodgates have opened.

                          One bonus I didn't expect after seeing what was happening at 1pm - the bus home at 5pm was no busier than usual. Make of that what you will.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                            Popped into Sainsburys this morning, and there was notably a lack of anyone in the newly opened non-essential goods aisles.
                            Wow! You're joking, right? I mean, that's amazing! It's almost as if closing the non-essential goods aisles was completely pointless in the first place...

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              Wow! You're joking, right? I mean, that's amazing! It's almost as if closing the non-essential goods aisles was completely pointless in the first place...
                              Have you seen the prices in Sainsburys

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