Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[rudy gestede]

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I cannot believe anyone can defend how slowly and poorly the government have acted. How can anyone be so biased and one eyed, it’s pathetic.

[rudy gestede]

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Do the WHO always get it right ? Why should we blindly follow what they say when our own scientists and medical officers are saying something different ? You appear to be letting your political bias dictate your opinions on this matter

Our government have ****ed us pal. It’s clear to everyone except the people who blindly follow a party.

[stevebrickman]

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Well for one it's the eternal struggle and two right wing governments are more likely not to take a human crisis like this seriously but put their friends in business first. If this were a left wing government we would have been more likely to have had a virtual total lockdown much earlier and thereby saving more lives and making the NHS response more manageable. This Berk in number 10 is only just behind the clown Trump in his unsuitability to lead a great nation.

If Corbyn was in number 10 now (god forbid), he would have gone missing, just like he did during the Brexit campaign. Spineless commy.

[Elwood Blues]

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Our government have ****ed us pal. It’s clear to everyone except the people who blindly follow a party.

So they are not following the science then?

[Gofer Blue]

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The number of people who have volunteered to help the NHS passes 500,000 tonight. What a fantastic response. Would have loved to be one but despite being quite fit and active, at 73 I am classified as vulnerable elderly myself and required to stay at home! I suppose I could do the " phoning around" role.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52029877

[chris lee]

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I really do not get this whole should have locked down quicker, we have scientific advisers addressing the country, who have said we need slow down the infection rate. not once said we need to stop it dead. If we went on lock-down on day 1, yes the infection would not spread but that is just kicking the can down the road, what we all live in isolation for 1-2 years while a cure is found? we have brought in measures step by step and while we till have not reached our peak, it does not seem to be out of control.

Both my mother and sister are nurses and while they have a lot going on, they both say capacity has not been reached by the majority of hospitals so not sure why there is so much hysteria, we have not got patients lying in the streets like Italy do, and if we all follow the governments measures we could likely avoid it.

people are listening to the news all day and getting worked up, nothing is falling apart, drive past your nearest hospital ( i volunteer at mine) its not burning in hell fire, we do not have bodies lining the street.

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However I will say we could have prepared better in hindsight, stopped non essential travel before the disease hit us ect, however This is the first pandemic to hit the UK in my life time, and i think all of us can admit our attitude was slightly more flippant when news first started to break in China, we are just people trying our best at the end of the day, I hate this blaming culture.

[lardy]

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I really do not get this whole should have locked down quicker, we have scientific advisers addressing the country, who have said we need slow down the infection rate. not once said we need to stop it dead. If we went on lock-down on day 1, yes the infection would not spread but that is just kicking the can down the road, what we all live in isolation for 1-2 years while a cure is found? we have brought in measures step by step and while we till have not reached our peak, it does not seem to be out of control.

Both my mother and sister are nurses and while they have a lot going on, they both say capacity has not been reached by the majority of hospitals so not sure why there is so much hysteria, we have not got patients lying in the streets like Italy do, and if we all follow the governments measures we could likely avoid it.

people are listening to the news all day and getting worked up, nothing is falling apart, drive past your nearest hospital ( i volunteer at mine) its not burning in hell fire, we do not have bodies lining the street.

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However I will say we could have prepared better in hindsight, stopped non essential travel before the disease hit us ect, however This is the first pandemic to hit the UK in my life time, and i think all of us can admit our attitude was slightly more flippant when news first started to break in China, we are just people trying our best at the end of the day, I hate this blaming culture.

Isn't the " hysteria " so that we DON'T get to the stage of Italy where there are patients lying in the streets?

You say capacity hasn't been reached yet, which is probably true. But you also need to look at the exponential growth to tell you that it soon will. No one has said we are at the peak. That's why there is what you call hysteria.

[Heisenberg]

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To those who are defending the Tory c**ts during this pandemic, let me ask you this...

Why was a headline this week: 'Coronavirus: Tens of thousands of retired medics asked to return to NHS'?

Is it because our NHS has been criminally underfunded and cut for the last decade (and more) that we require literally thousands of retired medical staff to volunteer for the cause... or is it because the Tories are doing a great job of controlling the Coronavirus (2 months after the experts said they should start taking action)?

DML need not reply.

[Heisenberg]

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Isn't the " hysteria " so that we DON'T get to the stage of Italy where there are patients lying in the streets?

You say capacity hasn't been reached yet, which is probably true. But you also need to look at the exponential growth to tell you that it soon will. No one has said we are at the peak. That's why there is what you call hysteria.

Not sure how many times this will be said before people actually understand that it's going to get worse. The mind boggles.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I really do not get this whole should have locked down quicker, we have scientific advisers addressing the country, who have said we need slow down the infection rate. not once said we need to stop it dead. If we went on lock-down on day 1, yes the infection would not spread but that is just kicking the can down the road, what we all live in isolation for 1-2 years while a cure is found? we have brought in measures step by step and while we till have not reached our peak, it does not seem to be out of control.

Both my mother and sister are nurses and while they have a lot going on, they both say capacity has not been reached by the majority of hospitals so not sure why there is so much hysteria, we have not got patients lying in the streets like Italy do, and if we all follow the governments measures we could likely avoid it.

people are listening to the news all day and getting worked up, nothing is falling apart, drive past your nearest hospital ( i volunteer at mine) its not burning in hell fire, we do not have bodies lining the street.

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However I will say we could have prepared better in hindsight, stopped non essential travel before the disease hit us ect, however This is the first pandemic to hit the UK in my life time, and i think all of us can admit our attitude was slightly more flippant when news first started to break in China, we are just people trying our best at the end of the day, I hate this blaming culture.

Balanced post without panic or drama, based on facts. Please delete..

[Eric Cartman]

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Do the WHO always get it right ? Why should we blindly follow what they say when our own scientists and medical officers are saying something different ? You appear to be letting your political bias dictate your opinions on this matter

First things first, deciding to only test serious cases is either a political or economic choice and not a scientific one. Evidenced by the fact that those with means are privately tested whenever they like.

The UK stuck it's neck out and then subsequently got in line, in the process wasting a load of time. By doing this, the people involved opened themselves up to scrutiny, especially after we dramatically changed course to fall back into line with the rest of the world over last weekend.

[Croesy Blue]

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I really do not get this whole should have locked down quicker, we have scientific advisers addressing the country, who have said we need slow down the infection rate. not once said we need to stop it dead. If we went on lock-down on day 1, yes the infection would not spread but that is just kicking the can down the road, what we all live in isolation for 1-2 years while a cure is found? we have brought in measures step by step and while we till have not reached our peak, it does not seem to be out of control.

Both my mother and sister are nurses and while they have a lot going on, they both say capacity has not been reached by the majority of hospitals so not sure why there is so much hysteria, we have not got patients lying in the streets like Italy do, and if we all follow the governments measures we could likely avoid it.

people are listening to the news all day and getting worked up, nothing is falling apart, drive past your nearest hospital ( i volunteer at mine) its not burning in hell fire, we do not have bodies lining the street.

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However I will say we could have prepared better in hindsight, stopped non essential travel before the disease hit us ect, however This is the first pandemic to hit the UK in my life time, and i think all of us can admit our attitude was slightly more flippant when news first started to break in China, we are just people trying our best at the end of the day, I hate this blaming culture.

We could have prepared a lot better and there is a good chance we will get a spike in infections in 2 weeks time just like italy did. If we had been clever we would have looked at Spain and Italy and isolated 2 weeks earlier and not reached the peak.

[Croesy Blue]

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So they are not following the science then?

What do you mean "following the science"?

[Eric Cartman]

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Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance offer advice. Government makes policy decisions. Just because Whitty and Vallance are wheeled out night after night to justify the decisions does not mean that the government have 100% followed their advice when making policy.

The ideologues in this thread would scare the scientific community, the scientific process is about learning and making necessary adjustments. The only thing that makes me retain my faith in this whole debacle is that when the evidence was overwhelming that we were following the wrong strategy we changed course. The question should be, 'why had other countries made that adjustment beforehand?' and we should be asking it and learning from it. Science shouldn't be used as a shield for bad policy decisions that may have cost lives.

[lardy]

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Balanced post without panic or drama, based on facts. Please delete..

The guy who says no one has died of coronavirus is now praising facts