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  • Re: Coronavirus update - LIVING IN OMICRON TIMES

    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Covid restrictions in Wales should return to pre-Omicron levels, according to a senior epidemiologist:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59880877
    I'd be shocked if anything changes this week, maybe by the end of January though

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    • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

      Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
      Where did you read that statistic?

      The 7 day rolling average per day I had seen for Wales is about 10.5k against a UK average of over 180k. That's less than 6% by my maths.
      The latest 7 days on PHE website 'cases by date reported' for each of the 4 home nations.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update - LIVING IN OMICRON TIMES

        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
        Arent we catching up with England though.
        Thought we were about 2 weeks behind and we are now showing the steep increase in cases.
        If (when) Wales’ stats reach England levels or even exceed them, surely that is all the evidence you need that the extra restrictions are doing naff all.

        Sure there will be some other reason given though.

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        • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

          Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
          The latest 7 days on PHE website 'cases by date reported' for each of the 4 home nations.
          Well the cases by area (last 7 days) are here




          Wales 75k out of 1.15 million. Looks like your source or maths are askew

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          • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

            Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
            Well the cases by area (last 7 days) are here




            Wales 75k out of 1.15 million. Looks like your source or maths are askew
            Basically, the same as England. Considering Wales has consistently had tighter rules and more restrictions than England, it seems they weren't needed - other than of course, to show how 'different' we are from England.

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            • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

              Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
              Basically, the same as England. Considering Wales has consistently had tighter rules and more restrictions than England, it seems they weren't needed - other than of course, to show how 'different' we are from England.
              I thought the new Welsh restrictions kicked in a week ago or have I got that wrong?

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              • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                Well the cases by area (last 7 days) are here




                Wales 75k out of 1.15 million. Looks like your source or maths are askew
                Thanks Cyril. The source was good, my maths were bad....

                However based on those latest 7 day figures the rate per capita in Wales is well above the other home nations. England 84.3% of the UK population 80.3% of the cases. Scotland 8.2% of the population 8.8% of the cases, NI 2.8% and 3.8% of the cases, Wales 4.7% of UK population and 6.9% of the cases.

                I'm sure you'll check the maths! Drakeford's rules are not producing results

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                • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                  Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                  Thanks Cyril. The source was good, my maths were bad....

                  However based on those latest 7 day figures the rate per capita in Wales is well above the other home nations. England 84.3% of the UK population 80.3% of the cases. Scotland 8.2% of the population 8.8% of the cases, NI 2.8% and 3.8% of the cases, Wales 4.7% of UK population and 6.9% of the cases.

                  I'm sure you'll check the maths! Drakeford's rules are not producing results
                  Like I said to AQM. The latest restrictions came in just over a week ago and isn't there an average 5 day gap between catching the virus and symptoms showing. If that's the case then there is a greater argument for the restrictions given the comparative case levels. I would have thought it is rather premature to cast judgement but not being resident in Wales I am not as close to the situation as some.

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                    Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                    Basically, the same as England. Considering Wales has consistently had tighter rules and more restrictions than England, it seems they weren't needed - other than of course, to show how 'different' we are from England.
                    If the rules were followed then maybe there would be a difference but you cannot police the whole population.

                    I think it probably points to a couple of things - People's attitudes towards the restrictions and the transmissibility of this variant.

                    It's better to be safe than sorry and taking a cautious approach at the very least shows essential workers that the government is aware of their struggles and is trying to make things easier for them.

                    Boris Johnson's words and policy is a kick in the face for people in the NHS who are overworked.

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                      Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                      Thanks Cyril. The source was good, my maths were bad....

                      However based on those latest 7 day figures the rate per capita in Wales is well above the other home nations. England 84.3% of the UK population 80.3% of the cases. Scotland 8.2% of the population 8.8% of the cases, NI 2.8% and 3.8% of the cases, Wales 4.7% of UK population and 6.9% of the cases.

                      I'm sure you'll check the maths! Drakeford's rules are not producing results


                      Just shows how wary we need to be in interpreting bald statistics. This article states that Wales is the only part of the UK that counts cases of reinfection in its daily totals.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                        Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...igures-omicron

                        Just shows how wary we need to be in interpreting bald statistics. This article states that Wales is the only part of the UK that counts cases of reinfection in its daily totals.

                        This probably explains why hospitalisations in Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 are so low in comparison to “cases” recorded.

                        The problem is with counting cases , it will always be artificially high thus making a return to some semblance of normality a long way off. Perhaps it’s by design.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update - LIVING IN OMICRON TIMES

                          Drakeford will always find a way to justify what he's doing. Even if it makes little sense he'll spin it to suit.

                          His wording will will always have an undercurrent of fearmongering just to keep us a tad fearful of our own shadows.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update - LIVING IN OMICRON TIMES

                            Originally posted by Michael Morris View Post
                            Drakeford will always find a way to justify what he's doing. Even if it makes little sense he'll spin it to suit.

                            His wording will will always have an undercurrent of fearmongering just to keep us a tad fearful of our own shadows.
                            Absolutely, apparently, he is still hasn’t provided data which justifies the current uptick in restrictions.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                              https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...igures-omicron

                              Just shows how wary we need to be in interpreting bald statistics. This article states that Wales is the only part of the UK that counts cases of reinfection in its daily totals.
                              Provided the positive tests are more than 42 days apart, otherwise they are not recorded

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                              • Re: Coronavirus update - LIVING IN OMICRON TIMES

                                Really interesting information in this latest broadcast.
                                Recommended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1u...r.JohnCampbell

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