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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by surge View Post
    2 observations:

    i) IDS describes what happens early in January then skips February and half of March to get to where we are now.

    ii) Imagine if media were willing to scrutinise IDS and others of his party like this before December? Unless there are a series of detailed and well explained reports into past 5 years before the next election then most of the public are going to be voting mostly blind leaving these Fidesz wannabees to romp home yet again.

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
      Times have set out to undermine Johnson big time over last few months. I've little doubt it's inspired by a current cabinet minister.
      So, the poster who is not scared to upset anyone because he "tells it like it is" is reduced to feebly bleating on about how the Times has got it in for a Conservative Prime Minister - strange days indeed.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
        Times have set out to undermine Johnson big time over last few months. I've little doubt it's inspired by a current cabinet minister.
        Nothing to do with his performance as a PM then? You could be right as Murdoch has probably now realised Boris the populist is a bit of a loose cannon.

        It’s still hilariously ironic that the Tories are bleating

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          So, the poster who is not scared to upset anyone because he "tells it like it is" is reduced to feebly bleating on about how the Times has got it in for a Conservative Prime Minister - strange days indeed.
          Bleating? LMFAO.

          Pointing out the obvious - except to you - that this is orchestrated from within the cabinet. I've little doubt Gove is settling scores.

          The fact the Times article has been comprehensively debunked, as has an FT one is also interesting. Newspaper industry dying on arse, looking for headlines, TV media full on bozos like Peston...

          We're at the stage where media muppets and plebs claim to know more of the medical side than CMO, deputy CMO et al.

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
            Nothing to do with his performance as a PM then? You could be right as Murdoch has probably now realised Boris the populist is a bit of a loose cannon.

            It’s still hilariously ironic that the Tories are bleating
            I don't think Murdoch cares whether we have a loose cannon as PM, in fact he would almost certainly prefer it as it would help sell more papers / generate more website hits. He couldn't give a shit how well run the country is, what he doesn't want is any PM who would seek to curtail his influence.

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
              That looks the most abject response to a critique of an article (which in itself was mostly constructed from people in government who are knifing Boris Johnson in his sick bed and fighting like rats in a sack to avoid blame and position themselves for the future) that I can recall. What was your favourite rebuttal? I went for this:

              Claim - The government sent 279,000 items of its depleted stockpile of protective equipment to China during this period in response to a request for help from the authorities there.

              Response - The equipment was not from the pandemic stockpile. We provided this equipment to China at the height of their need and China has since reciprocated our donation many times over. Between April 2-April 15 we have received over 12 million pieces of PPE in the UK from China.
              Not trying to defend anyone in particular, but just read in one of today's papers that Care Homes should not be blaming the government for lack of PPE.
              Most are privately run and charge around £50K a year for each resident. Following a UK pandemic exercise in 2016 they were told to keep adequate PPE. Of course that would be at their own expense.....so what happens? Nothing

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                Of course not, because you don't care about what he does or doesn't do, really. I doubt you're alone in that respect.

                You're still under the impression that there's 'nothing to see here' when it comes to Covid-19. It's baffling and concerning that there's people like you out there.
                Now you're getting personal - because people have different views to you. This place really is your life, isn't it.

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                  Not trying to defend anyone in particular, but just read in one of today's papers that Care Homes should not be blaming the government for lack of PPE.
                  Most are privately run and charge around £50K a year for each resident. Following a UK pandemic exercise in 2016 they were told to keep adequate PPE. Of course that would be at their own expense.....so what happens? Nothing
                  I guess the only way to "tell" privately run bodies to establish and maintain adequate supplies of PPE is through regulation which would have been considered "nanny state" if anything like that was brought forward. Without it as you say it would be left to individual organisations to consider what was adequate against their own profit margins.

                  It is an area of personal pertinence. My mother has recently moved into a home after a period in hospital and last night my father-in-law left his care home to move to hospital as his rising temperature was giving cause for concern.

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                    Now you're getting personal - because people have different views to you. This place really is your life, isn't it.
                    Not in the slightest, Monkfish. I'm getting personal because your views are f**king dangerous. You're still in denial about the severity of Covid-19 and we're halfway through April and approximately 17,000 have died from it in hospitals already. Potentially a lot more to add to that from care homes.

                    This messageboard isn't my life. My partner, my daughter and my family are my life and I'm worried that people like you are going about as normal when everyone else is making sacrifices to lessen the risk of losing any of our loved ones.

                    What the f**k is it going to take for you to start taking this seriously?

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                      Now you're getting personal - because people have different views to you. This place really is your life, isn't it.
                      Where is he being personal? Some soppy bastards on here ffs

                      Someone saying your opinion is wrong isn't getting personal, stop being such a fanny.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                        Now you're getting personal - because people have different views to you. This place really is your life, isn't it.
                        Personal??! If you've ever used the word snowflake take a long hard look at yourself

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                          Not in the slightest, Monkfish. I'm getting personal because your views are f**king dangerous. You're still in denial about the severity of Covid-19 and we're halfway through April and approximately 17,000 have died from it in hospitals already. Potentially a lot more to add to that from care homes.

                          This messageboard isn't my life. My partner, my daughter and my family are my life and I'm worried that people like you are going about as normal when everyone else is making sacrifices to lessen the risk of losing any of our loved ones.

                          What the f**k is it going to take for you to start taking this seriously?
                          I haven't a clue what the above post was about. As I said you don't like the fact I'm not buying into every single bit of information we're being told. I safe distance like 90% of others but I'm not really interested in your personal family details, so please refrain. Keep posting, and don't forget to put the * in those swear words..

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                            I haven't a clue what the above post was about. As I said you don't like the fact I'm not buying into every single bit of information we're being told. I safe distance like 90% of others but I'm not really interested in your personal family details, so please refrain. Keep posting, and don't forget to put the * in those swear words..
                            ****ing hell

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                              I haven't a clue what the above post was about. As I said you don't like the fact I'm not buying into every single bit of information we're being told. I safe distance like 90% of others but I'm not really interested in your personal family details, so please refrain. Keep posting, and don't forget to put the * in those swear words..
                              I'm just glad that you're safe distancing.

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                              • Re: Coronavirus update

                                Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
                                Bleating? LMFAO.

                                Pointing out the obvious - except to you - that this is orchestrated from within the cabinet. I've little doubt Gove is settling scores.

                                The fact the Times article has been comprehensively debunked, as has an FT one is also interesting. Newspaper industry dying on arse, looking for headlines, TV media full on bozos like Peston...

                                We're at the stage where media muppets and plebs claim to know more of the medical side than CMO, deputy CMO et al.
                                You can laugh if you like, but you're bleating just like the Government are - see Duncan Smith's outrage at being asked the sort of question anyone defending a Government should be asked in the current situation and the use of what is supposed to be a public service information website to post their "comprehensive debunking" (I must have got it wrong because I spent about half a century thinking those two words meant something completely different to what you seem to believe they do).

                                Tell it like it is - a lion when it comes to telling it like it is about those on one side of the political spectrum and as gentle as a lamb when it comes to those on the other side.

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