Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[goats]

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Drakeford will always find a way to justify what he's doing. Even if it makes little sense he'll spin it to suit.

His wording will will always have an undercurrent of fearmongering just to keep us a tad fearful of our own shadows.

A while back he was banging on about how case rates were not really relevant anymore, only hospitalisations mattered…..

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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The fact I know loads of people with it currently and all of them are far healthier than if they had the flu means this omicron is the best thing to happen in the last 2 years of this virus.

Time to get back to normal

Yes, the staff shortages as more and more people end up in isolation are great news. I'm seeing supermarkets struggling to get some items on shelves. Transport providers are struggling to maintain services.

People are still dying of this new variant. I lost a friend in his fifties, fit as a fiddle, who had Covid. He had a heart attack, rare but Covid is known for occasionally causing heart problems, and didn't make the ambulance ride to hospital.

[TWGL1]

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Yes, the staff shortages as more and more people end up in isolation are great news. I'm seeing supermarkets struggling to get some items on shelves. Transport providers are struggling to maintain services.

People are still dying of this new variant. I lost a friend in his fifties, fit as a fiddle, who had Covid. He had a heart attack, rare but Covid is known for occasionally causing heart problems, and didn't make the ambulance ride to hospital.

Whilst every death with Covid is an absolute tragedy, 🚨 #Covid19 was involved in 6.5% of deaths across Eng/Wales for the most recent week

◾️ 93.5 % of deaths were non Covid19

◾️ Number of deaths (all causes) in private homes was 34% above the 5-year average. Since pandemic an excess of 82.8k deaths

Source: ONS

To concentrate so much on one illness after a hugely positive vaccine take up , is not right. We need to move on and risk manage the people who are vulnerable don’t we ?

[splott parker]

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Yes, the staff shortages as more and more people end up in isolation are great news. I'm seeing supermarkets struggling to get some items on shelves. Transport providers are struggling to maintain services.

People are still dying of this new variant. I lost a friend in his fifties, fit as a fiddle, who had Covid. He had a heart attack, rare but Covid is known for occasionally causing heart problems, and didn't make the ambulance ride to hospital.

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RIP to your mate, amongst all the ‘let’s get back to normal’, ‘Drakeford’s talking crap’, ‘Its only a cold’ merchants spouting off, something like this brings it home that it’s still something to be very wary of and, perhaps, in the long run those who’ve lost loved ones will be thankful for the restrictions with the attitude there but for the grace of God go I.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Whilst every death with Covid is an absolute tragedy, 🚨 #Covid19 was involved in 6.5% of deaths across Eng/Wales for the most recent week

◾️ 93.5 % of deaths were non Covid19

◾️ Number of deaths (all causes) in private homes was 34% above the 5-year average. Since pandemic an excess of 82.8k deaths

Source: ONS

To concentrate so much on one illness after a hugely positive vaccine take up , is not right. We need to move on and risk manage the people who are vulnerable don’t we ?

No, we need to make sure the number of cases doesn't skyrocket. Imagine what would happen if double the number of people were being infected? More and more people would be isolating and not working, essential services would be hit even harder. There's still a need for some caution.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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RIP to your mate, amongst all the ‘let’s get back to normal’, ‘Drakeford’s talking crap’, ‘Its only a cold’ merchants spouting off, something like this brings it home that it’s still something to be very wary of and, perhaps, in the long run those who’ve lost loved ones will be thankful for the restrictions with the attitude there but for the grace of God go I.

It might just be me, but I find the vast majority of people who want an end to all these restrictions are those who haven't been personally affected by Covid.

[TWGL1]

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It might just be me, but I find the vast majority of people who want an end to all these restrictions are those who haven't been personally affected by Covid.

You may have a point to a certain extent , however ,from my perspective I know of people who have had critical, potentially life saving operations cancelled, I have lost friends through suicide and closer to home I see the NHS have extended cervical cancer screening times , it’s worrying.

I have not been able to visit my mum for nearly a year due to restrictions and she is poorly and in a home and she is lonely and lost. The care home staff are leaving in droves and the staff who are left are young and inexperienced…. Her home was on BBC news due to numerous safeguard concerns which she was part of.

My son has had his education decimated, his swimming lessons have been cancelled for over a year ( a life skill) and the current set up is not very good.

[Former Labour leader]

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RIP to your mate, amongst all the ‘let’s get back to normal’, ‘Drakeford’s talking crap’, ‘Its only a cold’ merchants spouting off, something like this brings it home that it’s still something to be very wary of and, perhaps, in the long run those who’ve lost loved ones will be thankful for the restrictions with the attitude there but for the grace of God go I.

Quite right. We are still in very troubling times, and we all should be cautious, even when there are siren voices calling for restrictions to end.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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You may have a point to a certain extent , however ,from my perspective I know of people who have had critical, potentially life saving operations cancelled, I have lost friends through suicide and closer to home I see the NHS have extended cervical cancer screening times , it’s worrying.

I have not been able to visit my mum for nearly a year due to restrictions and she is poorly and in a home and she is lonely and lost. The care home staff are leaving in droves and the staff who are left are young and inexperienced…. Her home was on BBC news due to numerous safeguard concerns which she was part of.

My son has had his education decimated, his swimming lessons have been cancelled for over a year ( a life skill) and the current set up is not very good.

Which is all the more reason to be cautious. If you decide to remove all restrictions, let the virus spread like wildfire, even more carehome staff will be absent, even more teachers will be absent, more things like swimming lessons will be cancelled, NHS waiting times will be extended further as there are less staff.

The other choice is to stop isolating if you have Covid, but that's not good news for the vulnerable.

[EastbourneBlue]

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Which is all the more reason to be cautious. If you decide to remove all restrictions, let the virus spread like wildfire, even more carehome staff will be absent, even more teachers will be absent, more things like swimming lessons will be cancelled, NHS waiting times will be extended further as there are less staff.

The other choice is to stop isolating if you have Covid, but that's not good news for the vulnerable.

The question is surely whether the current restrictions (or indeed any restrictions in the long run) are achieving anything

[Hilts]

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The question is surely whether the current restrictions (or indeed any restrictions in the long run) are achieving anything

Any limiting contacts will have some affect.

[City123]

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https://twitter.com/GillibrandPeter/status/1479431747850887175?t=mv2et-JDKRGZTNM2CBfQuQ&s=19

Looks like there probably won't be any real changes for at least 2 weeks

[Hilts]

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This obsession with Wales largest pub being open in February.

If they do open it then ban the sale of booze.

Thousands of pissed up people queing at bars vomiting throwing beer about isnt the best thing after restrictions.

[delmbox]

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This obsession with Wales largest pub being open in February.

If they do open it then ban the sale of booze.

Thousands of pissed up people queing at bars vomiting throwing beer about isnt the best thing after restrictions.

I'd be interested to see how many fewer people would buy tickets if you couldn't buy booze inside

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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No, we need to make sure the number of cases doesn't skyrocket. Imagine what would happen if double the number of people were being infected? More and more people would be isolating and not working, essential services would be hit even harder. There's still a need for some caution.

Stop talking sense.