Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Coronavirus update

It's getting very close to a naming and shaming campaign for those who disobey the rules I think. Having your details published in the local media would probably be far more effective as a deterrent than a fine! After the clowns who went from Abercynon to Doncaster we now have the guy who went on a pub crawl instead of self isolating at home and starting a rise in infections in Bolton.

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

It's getting very close to a naming and shaming campaign for those who disobey the rules I think. Having your details published in the local media would probably be far more effective as a deterrent than a fine! After the clowns who went from Abercynon to Doncaster we now have the guy who went on a pub crawl instead of self isolating at home and starting a rise in infections in Bolton.

That would lead to vigilante behaviour probably against the fools, more work for the already overstretched old bill. It would be good to name and shame them but it would lead to carnage in a country with so many stupid people.....

[xsnaggle]

Re: Coronavirus update

That would lead to vigilante behaviour probably against the fools, more work for the already overstretched old bill. It would be good to name and shame them but it would lead to carnage in a country with so many stupid people.....

I'm sure the locals in Abercynon know exactly who the culprits were without putting it in the papers. It's a small world up there.

[LeningradCowboy]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8751389/Oxford-scientists-circuit-break-need-cycle-bad-data-bad-science.html

The only 'circuit break' in the pandemic we need now is from the government’s doom-mongering scientific advisers who specialise in causing panic and little else, say PROF CARL HENEGHAN and DR TOM JEFFERSON

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...d-science.html

The only 'circuit break' in the pandemic we need now is from the government’s doom-mongering scientific advisers who specialise in causing panic and little else, say PROF CARL HENEGHAN and DR TOM JEFFERSON

Here’s another.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8748883/This-second-wave-coronavirus-simply-not-deadly-says-PROFESSOR-KAROL-SIKORA.html

I reckon there will be proper social unrest allover the UK if they try an impose a ridiculous lockdown again.....it’s not worth it when the negatives out way the positive. Just shut the pubs. Why should 99% suffer because of the actions of so few?

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

Covid-19 accounts for an average of 11 of the 1,687 deaths in Britain every day, according to official statistics.

In comparison, 124 people died each day from flu and pneumonia in the week ending September 4.

Heart disease – Britain’s biggest killer – accounted for 460 deaths every day last year, while cancer kills an average of 450 people per day.

Around 87,000 people die of dementia each year – about 240 people a day. Lung disease accounts for 31,000 deaths, or 84 every day, while fatal accidents at home – often while doing DIY – lead to 16 deaths per day.

Five people die every day in road accidents across the UK, while infections – including C.diff – and stomach bugs kill 5,937 a year, about 16 people a day.

Last year, there were 5,691 deaths attributed to suicide, an average of 15 per day.


We can’t stop any of these others yet the world keeps turning......

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Coronavirus update

That would lead to vigilante behaviour probably against the fools, more work for the already overstretched old bill. It would be good to name and shame them but it would lead to carnage in a country with so many stupid people.....

Didn't the UK Government Home Secretary and the Secretary of State for Health say that's exactly what people should do?

[delmbox]

Re: Coronavirus update

Covid-19 accounts for an average of 11 of the 1,687 deaths in Britain every day, according to official statistics.

In comparison, 124 people died each day from flu and pneumonia in the week ending September 4.

Heart disease – Britain’s biggest killer – accounted for 460 deaths every day last year, while cancer kills an average of 450 people per day.

Around 87,000 people die of dementia each year – about 240 people a day. Lung disease accounts for 31,000 deaths, or 84 every day, while fatal accidents at home – often while doing DIY – lead to 16 deaths per day.

Five people die every day in road accidents across the UK, while infections – including C.diff – and stomach bugs kill 5,937 a year, about 16 people a day.

Last year, there were 5,691 deaths attributed to suicide, an average of 15 per day.


We can’t stop any of these others yet the world keeps turning......

Do you really, after 7 months of this, not understand that those death numbers happen with us all living normally, however if we live normally then the death numbers for coronavirus will grow and grow because it's incredibly easily spread?

Flu - Not as fatal

Pneumonia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Dementia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Cancer - not infectious
Lung disease - not infectious
DIY accidents - not infectious
Road accidents - not infectious
C-Diff - not infectious
Suicide - not infectious

I'm not saying that lockdown is the answer but just copy and pasting death statistics as some kind of argument is silly, think a bit

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Coronavirus update

Do you really, after 7 months of this, not understand that those death numbers happen with us all living normally, however if we live normally then the death numbers for coronavirus will grow and grow because it's incredibly easily spread?

Flu - Not as fatal

Pneumonia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Dementia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Cancer - not infectious
Lung disease - not infectious
DIY accidents - not infectious
Road accidents - not infectious
C-Diff - not infectious
Suicide - not infectious

I'm not saying that lockdown is the answer but just copy and pasting death statistics as some kind of argument is silly, think a bit

Being pedantic C-DIFF is infectious

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Coronavirus update

I see the Chief Medical Officer is doing the briefing tomorrow not Boris.

Must be serious then

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Coronavirus update

I see the Chief Medical Officer is doing the briefing tomorrow not Boris.

Must be serious then

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/20/patrick-vallance-chris-whitty-uk-critical-point-covid-19-top-scientists-public-coronavirus

An acknowledgement that large sections of the population are ignoring what Johnson and his Cabinet members say on the virus just because it's coming from them? I'd say that the Cummings episode completely changed public perceptions about Government trustworthness on this subject.

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

I see the Chief Medical Officer is doing the briefing tomorrow not Boris.

Must be serious then

Predicted

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8751389/Oxford-scientists-circuit-break-need-cycle-bad-data-bad-science.html

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

Do you really, after 7 months of this, not understand that those death numbers happen with us all living normally, however if we live normally then the death numbers for coronavirus will grow and grow because it's incredibly easily spread?

Flu - Not as fatal

Pneumonia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Dementia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Cancer - not infectious
Lung disease - not infectious
DIY accidents - not infectious
Road accidents - not infectious
C-Diff - not infectious
Suicide - not infectious

I'm not saying that lockdown is the answer but just copy and pasting death statistics as some kind of argument is silly, think a bit

Pandemic flu would be much worse

[lardy]

Re: Coronavirus update

Pandemic flu would be much worse

Why do you say that? It's early days, but it seems that covid is more deadly than flu, and is more contagious than normal flu (about equal to pandemic flu).

In what ways would it be much worse?

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Coronavirus update

Do you really, after 7 months of this, not understand that those death numbers happen with us all living normally, however if we live normally then the death numbers for coronavirus will grow and grow because it's incredibly easily spread?

Flu - Not as fatal

Pneumonia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Dementia - not infectious
Heart disease - not infectious
Cancer - not infectious
Lung disease - not infectious
DIY accidents - not infectious
Road accidents - not infectious
C-Diff - not infectious
Suicide - not infectious

I'm not saying that lockdown is the answer but just copy and pasting death statistics as some kind of argument is silly, think a bit

Not quite right...

Pneumonia is infectious

C-Diff is very infectious

Lung disease....depends what the cause is...eg TB is infectious