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  • Re: Souness

    Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Maybe, but not as much as men that have played the men’s game, Roy Keene would have been far better than Karen, he'd understand the passion and why the managers lost it. Don't put him on as a pundit during women’s games though, it's very different have a panel of women who would have better understanding of their emotions. I don’t think it needs to be mixed?
    emotions?

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      Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
      I don't see what the problem with female officials is. There are female coppers, lawyers, doctors etc. There may be a difference between genders in physical prowess, but there are no differences in critical thinking and exercising good judgment.
      Agreed, men refs are mostly rubbish in the Championship, give them a go, make sure the best person gets the matches though, no quotas, do it by assessments.

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        Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
        I think it's the one on 5live who is across everything of late. Vicki Sparks. A really fake, slightly grandiose voice. Pure affection. It's truly awful to endure the fakeness.
        She certainly loves her own voice

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          Female referees to officiate at men’s World Cup for the first time

          Three female referees and three female assistants selected
          ‘Quality counts for us and not gender,’ says Fifa’s head of referees (Pierluigi Collina - arguably one of the greatest referees of all time).

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            Sian Massey-Ellis: Premier League assistant referee discusses VAR, online hate and inspiring next generation

            Sian Massey-Ellis tells Sky Sports' Kate Mason people must be held accountable for social media abuse; she accepts officials will make mistakes and wants to pave the way for more women to reach the top of sport; Massey-Ellis has been a Premier League assistant referee since 2010

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            • Re: Souness

              and to complete the trio:

              “I still get abuse and I know I’ll still get it because I’m a woman”: the uphill struggle for female sports broadcasters

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              • Re: Souness

                Ok we get your viewpoint ……

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                • Re: Souness

                  Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                  Ok we get your viewpoint ……
                  ....and right on cue.....some people just don't disappoint.

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                  • Re: Souness

                    Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                    Maybe, but not as much as men that have played the men’s game, Roy Keene would have been far better than Karen, he'd understand the passion and why the managers lost it. Don't put him on as a pundit during women’s games though, it's very different have a panel of women who would have better understanding of their emotions. I don’t think it needs to be mixed?
                    But would Roy Keane have been better

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                    • Re: Souness

                      Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                      Ok we get your viewpoint ……
                      I just wanted to finish off contributing to this thread and try and counter the sexism that's prevalent. The Boss in his post quite rightly talked about education and having a counter-argument. I like the way Michael referred to 'the story' and I get that.

                      You know what my biggest fight in life is? Equality.

                      It's also worth noting to all those who call me PC, snowflake, softie etc.. that I hardly ever start any threads, let alone bang a PC drum. I'm usually responding to the extreme views of people who start threads because they are pushing an agenda.

                      If I've got something political to highlight, I do it on the Politics Board.

                      I've started a few football threads in my time here but they've usually beens swamped by delicate posters who've been so offended by something so banal that it's pushed them into starting their own. This thread is a good example.

                      Anyway. I have a life and work to do (some of which are campaigning and activism for equality).

                      Have a great day.

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                        Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                        I just wanted to finish off contributing to this thread and try and counter the sexism that's prevalent. The Boss in his post quite rightly talked about education and having a counter-argument. I like the way Michael referred to 'the story' and I get that.

                        You know what my biggest fight in life is? Equality.

                        It's also worth noting to all those who call me PC, snowflake, softie etc.. that I hardly ever start any threads, let alone bang a PC drum. I'm usually responding to the extreme views of people who start threads because they are pushing an agenda.

                        If I've got something political to highlight, I do it on the Politics Board.

                        I've started a few football threads in my time here but they've usually beens swamped by delicate posters who've been so offended by something so banal that it's pushed them into starting their own. This thread is a good example.

                        Anyway. I have a life and work to do (some of which are campaigning and activism for equality).

                        Have a great day.

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                        • Re: Souness

                          Things like this on were on mainstream T.V not that long ago , crazy

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                            Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                            But would Roy Keane have been better
                            For me definitely, he's a bit grumpy and unpredictable, I would have liked to have seen his views on it, Karen didn't seem to have much passion on the match and seemed out of her depth, that’s my view we can agree to disagree.

                            Normally you would have had a different discussion, it changed as soon as Souness said it's a man’s game, which it was, the ladies games were a few weeks ago.

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                              Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                              For me definately, he's a bit grumpy and unpredictable, I would have liked to have seen his views on it, Karen didn't seem to have much passion on the match and seemed out of her depth, thats my view we can agree to disagree.

                              Normally you would have had a different discussion, it changed as soon as Souness said it's a mans game, which it was, the ladies games were a few weeks ago.
                              what do you mean by "out of her depth" surely nobody can be out of their depth when it comes to giving their opinion on a game of football.
                              you might not personally find them particularly interesting, but that's different.
                              plenty of male pundits talk a load of shite most of the time anyway.

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                                Souness didnt say anything wrong imo. Its been taken out of context, he was on about the physicality, boys to men.

                                The male pundits are always ex players who have played mens football. The female pundits are always ex players who have played the womens game. I think some of the women pundits are good, but then they should be appearing on panels for womens games, as they have experience of that. Its quite straightforward really, and shouldnt offend anyone. Thats my 2 pennies worth anyway..

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