Too much Gas

[splott parker]

Re: Gas Price

I agree that Doucas has gone over a line a few times in this thread with language that cannot be justified, but please save us from the one eyed sanctimonious bollux that you and James specialise in.

You were happy to leave Goslow’s Grenfell candle burning on the site for weeks and you have no concern for racist, Nazi propaganda taking root. Not a squeak!

But if someone goes OTT in challenging your core conservative beliefs you get a touch of the vapours! Citizens Nephew is right. As is Splot Parker and Paul Evans. This is a thread that has focused on the selfish decisions of a generation with relative political and financial power - screwing the world for those that come after. Many of us on both sides of the argument are part of that generation and some of us share a sense of responsibility and shame.

And to repeat what others have said, Doucas is not wishing death on individuals of a certain age, but a generational change so that other values and priorities might come to the top. It will happen naturally. You don’t have to feel so personally offended by the prospect!

Thank you, how some couldn’t differentiate between ‘wishing death’ and ‘natural inevitability’ beats me. There’s no way out of it, we’re all going to shuffle off and leave things to those remaining, having a ‘oh no I’m not and that’s an awful thing to say’ attitude aren’t grasping how things work.

[goats]

Re: Gas Price

I agree that Doucas has gone over a line a few times in this thread with language that cannot be justified, but please save us from the one eyed sanctimonious bollux that you and James specialise in.

You were happy to leave Goslow’s Grenfell candle burning on the site for weeks and you have no concern for racist, Nazi propaganda taking root. Not a squeak!

But if someone goes OTT in challenging your core conservative beliefs you get a touch of the vapours! Citizens Nephew is right. As is Splot Parker and Paul Evans. This is a thread that has focused on the selfish decisions of a generation with relative political and financial power - screwing the world for those that come after. Many of us on both sides of the argument are part of that generation and some of us share a sense of responsibility and shame.

And to repeat what others have said, Doucas is not wishing death on individuals of a certain age, but a generational change so that other values and priorities might come to the top. It will happen naturally. You don’t have to feel so personally offended by the prospect!

Peoples views and political opinions do seem to change as they get older also, not just more cemented either. Everyone thinks they can change the world in their early 20’s, go to Glastonbury bla bla, go on marches against whatever government is in power ( poll tax riots/bush and Blair’s war in Iraq etc) but often seem to mellow out when they have kids and responsibilities and bills to pay. I imagine by the time your in your 50’s and 60’s it could change further but I’m not there yet……I guess by then oldies have more pressing concerns?

[John Buchanan]

Re: Gas Price

Peoples views and political opinions do seem to change as they get older also, not just more cemented either. Everyone thinks they can change the world in their early 20’s, go to Glastonbury bla bla, go on marches against whatever government is in power ( poll tax riots/bush and Blair’s war in Iraq etc) but often seem to mellow out when they have kids and responsibilities and bills to pay. I imagine by the time your in your 50’s and 60’s it could change further but I’m not there yet……I guess by then oldies have more pressing concerns?

They do. They (we, or many of us) become more reflective and concerned about what they will eventually leave behind for the next generation. What impact, if any they and their peers have made on society. As evidenced (and misunderstood by some of the younger posters) on some of the posts I see on this forum.
But hey, we at least got to see Buchanan's 40 yard screamer and can occasionally celebrate going the whole night without getting up to have a wee.

[William Treseder’s Mam]

Re: Gas Price

I agree that Doucas has gone over a line a few times in this thread with language that cannot be justified, but please save us from the one eyed sanctimonious bollux that you and James specialise in.

You were happy to leave Goslow’s Grenfell candle burning on the site for weeks and you have no concern for racist, Nazi propaganda taking root. Not a squeak!

But if someone goes OTT in challenging your core conservative beliefs you get a touch of the vapours! Citizens Nephew is right. As is Splot Parker and Paul Evans. This is a thread that has focused on the selfish decisions of a generation with relative political and financial power - screwing the world for those that come after. Many of us on both sides of the argument are part of that generation and some of us share a sense of responsibility and shame.

And to repeat what others have said, Doucas is not wishing death on individuals of a certain age, but a generational change so that other values and priorities might come to the top. It will happen naturally. You don’t have to feel so personally offended by the prospect!

Amazing post John, got his attitude and way of moderating bang to rights.

[bobh]

Re: Gas Price

The hatred I spout? You literally defend fascism at every opportunity. You cried your eyes out and screamed racism because someone used the word gammon. You repeat buzzwords you read in the Daily Mail, a newspaper made to manipulate the dim and elderly.

I post stat after stat after stat, I ask basic questions and you either reply 'you're lying' or just ignore them.

I thought people like you liked people who 'tell it as it is'

Well here's the truth, a lot of people my age have given up trying to reason with old gammon like you, you refuse to listen, you don't care about climate change, you don't care about the utter misery put on people by the votes you make. Even basic things like electricity and gas bills being being cheaper in other countries you just deny deny deny.

You defend the worst government in my lifetime with every breath. Anyone who stands up you is described as unhinged, I've seen you do it about 5 times on this forum.to various people.

I've worked for a decade in anti poverty related work and I'm so so tired of out of touch people like you denying this is getting worse and worse.

You talk about the twitter bubble, you're in the old man gammon bubble copying and pasting your opinions from the daily mail. You present yourself as an enlightened centrist but we all see you for what you are.

You would have voted for the nazis if you were in Germany in the early 20th century. Tory scum.

Godwin's Law has been triggered.
You lose the argument.

[William Treseder’s Mam]

Re: Gas Price

Godwin's Law has been triggered.
You lose the argument.

Hasn’t Godwin said politics has gone to such shit that it doesn’t even work any more

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Gas Price

Hasn’t Godwin said politics has gone to such shit that it doesn’t even work any more

Ironically, in any thread about Gas, Boyle's law still applies though.

[life on mars]

Re: Gas Price

People voted for Brexit for a lot of reasons. I think the vast majority were influenced by their dislike of immigration and Polish plumbers, a feeling of alienation that they were persuaded was the fault of European bureaucratic elites (the tabloid press ran a 50 year campaign that to no one’s surprise worked) and a belief that the UK was subsidising others and the money could be better used at home (the NHS lie on Johnson’s bus).

But there were also a number of people on the left who voted Brexit in a re-run of the 1970s referendum. I know a lot who still think the EU is the EEC bosses club. I think they are wrong as do the majority of the labour movement who campaigned for Remain in 2016, but against joining in the 1970s. It is still a capitalist bloc but the social, environmental and employment protections that have been achieved (often by pan-European campaigns by civic and trade union groups) are worth holding onto.

In my opinion the main objective of the Leave campaign (not their voters) was to create a low regulation economy and an even more insecure and demoralised workforce, for the benefit of employers and shareholders. The Dennis Skinner’s of our world who voted Leave didn’t want that but made it more likely.

It's called democracy

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Gas Price

The position the UK is in with regard to mitigating energy costs lies squarely with its government which has completely failed to plan and investment in a coherent energy strategy.

Or maybe they planned for this very scenario?

[William Treseder’s Mam]

Re: Gas Price

It's called democracy

Is it true democracy when the billionaires who own the national newspapers are allowed to print complete lies and the politicians are allowed to parrot them with no consequence?

[Claude Blue]

Re: Gas Price

I agree that Doucas has gone over a line a few times in this thread with language that cannot be justified, but please save us from the one eyed sanctimonious bollux that you and James specialise in.

You were happy to leave Goslow’s Grenfell candle burning on the site for weeks and you have no concern for racist, Nazi propaganda taking root. Not a squeak!

But if someone goes OTT in challenging your core conservative beliefs you get a touch of the vapours! Citizens Nephew is right. As is Splot Parker and Paul Evans. This is a thread that has focused on the selfish decisions of a generation with relative political and financial power - screwing the world for those that come after. Many of us on both sides of the argument are part of that generation and some of us share a sense of responsibility and shame.

And to repeat what others have said, Doucas is not wishing death on individuals of a certain age, but a generational change so that other values and priorities might come to the top. It will happen naturally. You don’t have to feel so personally offended by the prospect!

Best post this year.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Gas Price

Reading this thread, I'll guess that JamesWails nuance radar is on the blip again or he's outraged by words which in reality mean phuck all in the bigger scheme of things.

Strange that a bloke who more or less demanded scrutiny and had a verbal pop over a 16 year old kid has a hissy fit over someone calling him nasty names.

What a phucking wuss!

Am I allowed to say that?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Gas Price

Reading this thread, I'll guess that JamesWails nuance radar is on the blip again or he's outraged by words which in reality mean phuck all in the bigger scheme of things.

Strange that a bloke who more or less demanded scrutiny and had a verbal pop over a 16 year old kid has a hissy fit over someone calling him nasty names.

What a phucking wuss!

Am I allowed to say that?

'16yr old kid' ??? Who are we referring to here ?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Gas Price

They do. They (we, or many of us) become more reflective and concerned about what they will eventually leave behind for the next generation. What impact, if any they and their peers have made on society. As evidenced (and misunderstood by some of the younger posters) on some of the posts I see on this forum.
But hey, we at least got to see Buchanan's 40 yard screamer and can occasionally celebrate going the whole night without getting up to have a wee.

Speak for yourself

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Gas Price

'16yr old kid' ??? Who are we referring to here ?

Greta Thunberg, patsy for the Green Agenda, backed by a multi national to bring down our way of life as we know it.

She's quasi religious apparently.

He wasn't too fussed on being scrutinised himself then.

James is far too sensitive for a man who frequently not shy in calling others out.

Then hides behind his so called morals.

Phucking blouse.