These anti Lockdown conspiracy theorists

[TWGL1]

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Over 35,000 people died of flu between March 2020 and April 2022 - hardly nobody.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ath/2022-05-23

Still about half on a usual year and not recorded within 28 days of a positive test as there wasn’t one available for flu…………….

If there was a test for flu, I’d argue the statistics would affect Covid directly

[Rjk]

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Still about half on a usual year and not recorded within 28 days of a positive test as there wasn’t one available for flu…………….

If there was a test for flu, I’d argue the statistics would affect Covid directly

do you not think that wearing masks and social distancing / lock downs etc will have had any effect on the levels of flu?

[the other bob wilson]

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Still about half on a usual year and not recorded within 28 days of a positive test as there wasn’t one available for flu…………….

If there was a test for flu, I’d argue the statistics would affect Covid directly

That was posted in reply to a statement that “nobody died from flu for over two years” - they clearly did, no matter how much you try to manipulate the figures.

I see nothing in these two links to justify your claim that the figures for the two years we’re talking about were about half the usual number in these two links, one of which is from more than fifteen years ago mind.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/influenzadeathsin20182019and2020

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1676118/

[TWGL1]

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That was posted in reply to a statement that “nobody died from flu for over two years” - they clearly did, no matter how much you try to manipulate the figures.

I see nothing in these two links to justify your claim that the figures for the two years we’re talking about were about half the usual number in these two links, one of which is from more than fifteen years ago mind.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/influenzadeathsin20182019and2020

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1676118/

The flu statistics were deliberately down-played by me to measure the responses. I suspected you would increase its severity yet not once have you asked why the same restrictions were not ever considered for Flu when it’s been established that the IFR rate is pretty similar.

It would probably much higher if you had a diagnostic procedure and testing regime similar to Covid, ( with a huge false positive rate) but as you know, we never have.

[the other bob wilson]

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The flu statistics were deliberately down-played by me to measure the responses. I suspected you would increase its severity yet not once have you asked why the same restrictions were not ever considered for Flu when it’s been established that the IFR rate is pretty similar.

It would probably much higher if you had a diagnostic procedure and testing regime similar to Covid, ( with a huge false positive rate) but as you know, we never have.

Funny how I've been the one posting actual figures and all you do is tell my why they don't count for anything. I'm a simple soul and my only intention is to prove Wales Bales' statement was wrong and that your follow up claim was wrong as well. What you and he have said in this exchange is incorrect, so why should anyone believe the pair of you when it comes to anything else you claim about Covid?

[TWGL1]

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I appreciate that the Flu statistics are higher that quoted, however , and it’s not for me to influence your opinion, and again you are ignoring the hard facts that are also on the ONS website.

[Wales-Bales]

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The flu vanished during covid. What will it's return look like?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/22/science/flu-season-coronavirus-pandemic.html

[Rjk]

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The flu vanished during covid. What will it's return look like?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-pandemic.html

probably bad

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Over 35,000 people died of flu between March 2020 and April 2022 - hardly nobody.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ath/2022-05-23

Hardly anyone who has reasonable health will die from 'flu. The same as COVID.

[Rjk]

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Hardly anyone who has reasonable health will die from 'flu. The same as COVID.

and? there are lots of people with health complications, millions, shouldn't we be helping those?
Or is Lord of the flies basically the vision for the future of Britain now?

[Doucas]

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It doesn't surprise me to see you defend it as you love dishing out abuse to anyone with a different opinion, but it is Doucas. It absolutely passes the test for it, even if the user didn't intend it as such, in much the way that other terms are not always intended as such.

Gammon is only applied to one skin colour. Skin colour is a protected characteristic, using an abusive term to refer to it is racism. It's as simple as that.

Gammon is applied to alcoholic right wing brexiters who froth at the mouth at the thought of anything other policy than borderline facism being implemented. I'm so sowwy your feelings have been hurt on this one Jimmy.

[JamesWales]

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Gammon is applied to alcoholic right wing brexiters who froth at the mouth at the thought of anything other policy than borderline facism being implemented. I'm so sowwy your feelings have been hurt on this one Jimmy.

Incredibly, this is not the daftest thing I have read from you today, and it's only 1.30 in the afternoon.

[Wales-Bales]

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Gammon is applied to alcoholic right wing brexiters who froth at the mouth at the thought of anything other policy than borderline facism being implemented. I'm so sowwy your feelings have been hurt on this one Jimmy.

Wow, just wow! Congratulations, you've just won 1st prize in stereotype insults bingo! You are a certainly a candidate for the mass-debater of the year award

[Mrs Steve R]

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Imagine thinking the word gammon is racist, embarrassing.

It's vile and childish imo.

I've been called a gammon a few times lately for caring about womens rights.

[Wales-Bales]

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It's vile and childish imo.

I've been called a gammon a few times lately for caring about womens rights.

I though you were more prime cut rump steak?